Tim Jones
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You’ll probably find the SSD’s sufficient for HD video at the expected 450MB/sec each, but you don’t need anywhere near that performance for the audio components, so I’d just place those assets onto your normal spinning disks. Of course, if there are 10 answers to this post, you’ll see 15 different workflow suggestions :).
We use a lot of EVO 850’s around here and they are wonderful for project content. If you stripe the two drives together as a single volume, you’ll really be satisfied in your multiple-angle environment.
As an example of one of our setups –
If you have the budget, you might want to take a look at adding the ATTO ThunderStream SC4808 or the HighPoint RocketStor 6328 so that you can branch out into the more expandable SAS chassis options. One of our MP Canisters is connected via the RocketStor 6328 to one of our ArGest RackMOD 480 with eight 6TB drives striped and a SANS Digital TR4X with 4 EVO 850 1TB drives striped. The TR4X is daisy-chained off of the RackMOD so that only one port on the RS6328 is used for disk and the second port is used for our LTO-6 tape library.
Mike uses the SSD array for editing (FCP X and PP CC) and the 48TB array for ingest and storage of the GoPro and Canon DLSR media before backing up to LTO-6.
Tim
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Tim Jones
CTO – TOLIS Group, Inc.
https://www.tolisgroup.com
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Actually, the media has always been expensive at launch – LTO-6 was $160 per tape for example.
The problem with LTO-7 is the manufacturing process is so exacting that it actually costs over 4 times to manufacture an LTO-7 tape over an LTO-6’s list price.
As I mentioned above, we see LTO-6 remaining as the sweet spot for most shops for quite a few more years. LTO-7 drives might be a good purchase if budgets allow since you can still use LTO-6 media for more reasonable costs since LTO-6’s 2.5TB x 3 tapes = $96 and 7.5TB while a single LTO-7 tape at more than 4x that price is only 6TB.
BTW – BRU is running our current engineering samples at the rated 300MB/sec for M&E data.
Tim
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Tim Jones
CTO – TOLIS Group, Inc.
https://www.tolisgroup.com
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The “drive wearing out” myth is just that – a myth. It may have applied to drives from the way-back-days, but modern SSD’s are as resilient as spinning drives for what any of us would consider a normal use life expectancy.
The Samsung EVO 850’s I mentioned are especially well suited for editing tasks.
In fact, I use 6 of their older 840 model in a 6 drive array with my Windows 7 system. They’ve now been running faultlessly for over 2 years.
Tim
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Tim Jones
CTO – TOLIS Group, Inc.
https://www.tolisgroup.com
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I like the Quadro 4800 unit that YoYoMarv sells on eBay for these older Mac Pros. The price can’t be beat and the Cuda support is dead-on.
We have 5 of these in everything from a 3,1 to the last 5,1.
If you aren’t budget limited, then the later Quadro units are even faster.
https://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-Quadro-K5000-Graphics-PNY/dp/B00BLTE87K
HTH,
Tim
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Tim Jones
CTO – TOLIS Group, Inc.
https://www.tolisgroup.com
BRU … because it’s the RESTORE that matters! -
There is one additional piece of information that you haven’t mentioned – how are you connecting the drive to your system?
If you’re connecting via your systems built-in SATA bus, you’ll get the rated performance of any selected drive. However, if you’re looking at USB-2, it’s quite a different story.
With the prices of mid-line capacity SSD drives dropping the way they have, you might want to consider something like the Samsung EVO 850 family. Amazon has the 500GB version for $160.
With any single spindle spinning disk, your REAL performance will be limited to around 75MB/sec or less. Replace that drive with the SSD and that number will jump dramatically – as high as 500MB/sec depending on your connection to the computer.
Tim
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Tim Jones
CTO – TOLIS Group, Inc.
https://www.tolisgroup.com
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StorageTek’s high density T10000 devices are a different take on high density than Ultrium and they’ve been around just as long. Much like the Accelis LTO alternate to Ultrium (2 different sides of the LTO-technology face) that IBM promoted until just the past few years. These are aimed at a VERY different customer. They are designed for use in ultra high density environments where a Petabyte is small change. Imagine a room containing 150 Tape drives and supporting 10K tape slots… NOT your average post house :).
But then again, we still have customers managing audio collections on DAT320 DDS drives… Different strokes for different folks.
… oh, and BRU supports them all on everything from the IBM xSeries mainframes to the lowliest ARM-based Raspberry Pi web server :).
Tim
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Tim Jones
CTO – TOLIS Group, Inc.
https://www.tolisgroup.com
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Good input David – also be aware that the new “locked out” folders in 10.11 include /bin, /sbin, /etc, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /private/root, /System, and /dev. If you or one of your tools has placed anything into any of those locations, the change / addition will be deleted with no warning or explanation. Things will just stop working.
My recommendation to all – if you don’t have a really, really, really compelling reason to update to 10.11, DON’T.
If you MUST, and you use BRU Producer’s Edition, make sure that you upgrade to the latest version (3.1.15 build 203 at this time) to insure El Capitan compatibility. Also, if you’re running ATTO HBAs, be sure to update your drivers and firmware from the attotech.com site as Apple is still downgrading the drivers.
HPT users are okay with the current drivers.
Tim
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Tim Jones
CTO – TOLIS Group, Inc.
https://www.tolisgroup.com
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Okay – that’s frustrating. ATTO were supposed to have changed the default to 4MB. It appears that they didn’t. This is an important clue for us in assisting others, so thanks for uncovering it.
If you really want to see high performance with BRU PE, set the value to 4MB and then set BRU PE’s device blocksize (in Preferences -> Devices) to 2048K.
Tim
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Tim Jones
CTO – TOLIS Group, Inc.
https://www.tolisgroup.com
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Jake – you don’t mention what your edit environment is. Are you using all Adobe, Apple, Avid, a hybrid of multiple?
Tim
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Tim Jones
CTO – TOLIS Group, Inc.
https://www.tolisgroup.com
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Paul, that link is invalid. What were you specifically searching for on their site?
Tim
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Tim Jones
CTO – TOLIS Group, Inc.
https://www.tolisgroup.com
BRU … because it’s the RESTORE that matters!