Tapio Haaja
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[Jon Chappell] “QT Edit can fix all of those problems:
https://www.digitalrebellion.com/promedia
“True, tested and works! Highly recommended 🙂 And it’s okay for me to change parameters in QT Edit if I’m working alone but it’s not one thing I’m going to teach to everyone in our department. So this problem is one reason why we’re not using FCPX.
And even that QT Edit can solve all Prores problems we still have non-square materal + motion template based effects = softening problem.
Tapio
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Well this same PAR problem exists also with PAL files. Actually it’s currently impossible to work correctly in SD between Adobe softwares (AE & PPRO) and FCPX when using Prores as your files because:
1) Like you noticed PAR is not exactly same in Adobe & Apple softwares and this leads to light softening in FCPX.
2) Color profiles (HD709, NTSC, PAL) are not tagged to Prores files. FCPX is first program that actually uses that metadata and at least in PAL lands this leads to problems because FCPX assumes that even PAL sized Prores files (rendered from AE) have NTSC color profile and this leads to slightly shifted colours.
Also one thing why FCPX in current form is not suitable to SD workflows is how it handles non-square material and effects. FCPX engine scales everything to square pixel before motion template based effects are processed in it. So for example when I’m cutting SD PAL Anamorphic (720 x 575) and add motion template based effect to it -> FCPX first scales it to 1050×576 -> Processes effect in 1050×576 -> Scales it back to 720×576 to timeline. And this naturally leads to very bad softening.
There seems to be some intelligence because this doesn’t seem to happen in some very simple motion based effects (some looks that only have levels in it). But all 3rd party filters have this problem. Add for example Magic Bullet Looks (without any actual look) to some anamorphic SD material and material gets badly softened.
So currently FCPX works nicely if you work in square pixel HD but in SD it’s bad…
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Tapio HaajaOn-Air Promotion Producer
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Many people say there’s some performance problems when using older Macs with Final Cut Pro X. For example I can play easily XDCAM HD with Premiere Pro or FCP7 on my Macbook Pro 2009 but not on FCPX. On newer Macbook Pro 2011 I can play XDCAM HD as well on FCPX than on FCP7. I guess that’s because FCPX is optimized to work with quite new Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge processors.
Premiere Pro and FCP7 works much better with older hardware. So that might be the problem. It seems new Macbook Pro runs FCPX much better than top-line 2009 Mac Pro.
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Hi,
I’ve reported this to Adobe and their engineering manager confirmed issue and promised fix in next update.
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Color management in FCPX is a great thing but at least for me it has led to more problems because FCPX is the first program that actually reads colorspace (HD709, PAL/NTSC 601) tags in Prores files and makes color conversion based on those. Ans it seems that only Apple software currently tags Prores files correctly. So if you bring for example SD Prores files from After Effects, Premiere, Episode… You notice in FCPX that those files are tagged with HD709 colorspace and colors get little bit shifted.
I think FCPX assumes if there’s no colorspace tag, colors are in HD709 color space. So if you are currently trying to build color accurate workflow for example between Adobe suite and FCPX it’s impossible because Adobe’s programs doesn’t tag color space to Prores files. Not even when you have color management turned on in After Effects.
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Tapio HaajaOn-Air Promotion Producer
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Yes they seem to have great customer support! They confirmed my findings and said this will be probably fixed in next driver update 🙂 I really hope so.
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Tapio HaajaOn-Air Promotion Producer
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Hi Matjaz! Nice to hear others are having same problem. I think we should give loud feedback to AJA so it’ll be soon fixed.
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Tapio HaajaOn-Air Promotion Producer
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Yes, I had checked. It doesn’t make any difference. Currently there’s no way to monitor anamorphic SD through Kona in Premiere Pro CS6 without video getting letterboxed. For me it seems there should be an option to choose 576i anamorphic as your resolution in AJA preferences inside Premiere Pro. Now only option is 576i and it assumes you have 4:3 video monitor. In our broadcast workflow about 90% of our material is anamorphic SD so Premiere + Kona is pretty much useless for us until this is fixed. So I really hope this will be fixed soon.
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Tapio HaajaOn-Air Promotion Producer
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BTW I guess you played Youtube through Flash player which isn’t yet updated to support retina so at least with scaling there were some sort of double scaling involved. First Flash scales to ‘old fullscreen’ and then OSX pixel doubles outcome to Retina. I think it’d be fair to play video Quicktime Player which supports retina and scales accordingly.
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Tapio HaajaOn-Air Promotion Producer
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Yeah that is what it should do but in my tests it doesn’t do anything 🙁
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Tapio HaajaOn-Air Promotion Producer
https://avseikkailuja.blogspot.com/