[Stephen Crye]

Hi Dave;

Thanks for your interest.

Let me ‘splain something about my “new” computer. It was an end-of-sale Dell T7500 clearance priced to sell back in Nov. 2012. It sat in its box in my garage for more than a year until Dec 2013. I had no time for video fun last year because my wife had been very ill, nearly died, but the surgeons fixed her up; she is now disabled and can’t drive or walk much, but is happy and able to eat food again – yaay!

So, I finally set it up last month. “New” to me, but old in Internet time, as will be evidenced by the specs below.

I really appreciate your taking the time to reply; I’m looking to speed it up without buying a new system – I am hoping John will comment on Quadro 2000 vs Quadro 4000 because I might be able to get a K4000 cheap.

Tonight I replaced my WD Blue 500 GB c: drive (cloned it) with a new Corsair Neutron 480GB GTX. I know this won’t help Vegas but man! Talk about fast boot and program loads. It is freaky fast.

Steve
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CPU-Z TXT Report
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Binaries
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CPU-Z version 1.68.0.×64
Processors
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Number of processors 1
Number of threads 4
APICs
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Processor 0
— Core 0
— Thread 0 0
— Core 1
— Thread 0 2
— Core 9
— Thread 0 18
— Core 10
— Thread 0 20
Timers
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ACPI timer 3.580 MHz
HPET timer 14.318 MHz
Perf timer 2.078 MHz
Sys timer 1.000 KHz
BCLK timer 133.02 MHz
Processors Information
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Processor 1 ID = 0
Number of cores 4 (max 16)
Number of threads 4 (max 32)
Name Intel Xeon E5606
Codename Westmere-EP
Specification Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5606 @ 2.13GHz
Package (platform ID) Socket 1366 LGA (0x0)
CPUID 6.C.2
Extended CPUID 6.2C
Core Stepping B1
Technology 32 nm
TDP Limit 80 Watts
Core Speed 2128.3 MHz
Multiplier x Bus Speed 16.0 x 133.0 MHz
Rated Bus speed 2394.3 MHz
Stock frequency 2133 MHz
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, EM64T, VT-x, AES
L1 Data cache 4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 4 x 32 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 4 x 256 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L3 cache 8 MBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control yes

Turbo Mode not supported
Max turbo frequency 2133 MHz
Max non-turbo ratio 16x
Max turbo ratio 16x
Max efficiency ratio 9x
TDC Limit 70 Amps
Core TDP 70 Watts
Uncore TDP 10 Watts
Power @ 9x 22 Watts
Power @ 10x 27 Watts
Power @ 11x 32 Watts
Power @ 12x 39 Watts
Power @ 13x 47 Watts
Power @ 14x 56 Watts
Power @ 15x 67 Watts
Power @ 16x 80 Watts
Max bus number 63
# of QPI Links 2
Attached device PCI device at bus 63, device 2, function 0
Attached device PCI device at bus 63, device 2, function 4
Attached device PCI device at bus 63, device 3, function 4
Chipset
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Northbridge Intel 5520 rev. 22
Southbridge Intel 82801JR (ICH10R) rev. 00
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR3
Memory Size 8190 MBytes
Channels Triple
Memory Frequency 532.1 MHz (2:8)
CAS# latency (CL) 7.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 7
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 7
Cycle Time (tRAS) 20
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 86
Command Rate (CR) 1T
Uncore Frequency 1596.2 MHz

Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T7500, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM, nVidia Quadro 2000, Vegas 12, 11, 10, 9 DVDA 6.0 & 5.2(build 135) Sony HDR-CX550V, Panasonic GH3 with LUMIX G X VARIO 12-35mm / F2.8 ASPH, LUMIX G X VARIO 35-100mm / F2.8

[Stephen Crye]

Hi Norman;

During CPU only render with Mainconcept, there was GPU activity. In fact, during the 1st run after it was done and I looked, I thought I had specified some kind of GPU assist, and was surprised to see that I had three choices and it had defaulted to CPU only. My second screen shot in the original post showed that GPU activity when CPU only was selected in the render template.

So, I thought “well, I should get better numbers with OpenCL selected, after all OpenCL is hot stuff.” So, I was very puzzled that it ran slower and showed less GPU than with CPU only!

When you said “…The Vegas video composite and effects engine always uses OpenCL for both AMD and NVidia.” , do you mean during preview or render?

Thanks for your reply;

Steve

Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T7500, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM, nVidia Quadro 2000, Vegas 12, 11, 10, 9 DVDA 6.0 & 5.2(build 135) Sony HDR-CX550V, Panasonic GH3 with LUMIX G X VARIO 12-35mm / F2.8 ASPH, LUMIX G X VARIO 35-100mm / F2.8

[Stephen Crye]

Ken, I do a lot of that, no problems.

My interlaced cam is a Sony HDR-CX550V . I typically shoot in 1920×1080 60i. I make DVDs and Blu-Rays from the footage. No jaggies, just a nice motion blur. The defaults seem to work pretty good.

Project properties screen shot:

MainConcept MPEG-2 Render template screen shot:

Hope this helps, you can always play with Interpolate vs Blend and see what you like best.

Steve

Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T7500, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM, nVidia Quadro 2000, Vegas 12, 11, 10, 9 DVDA 6.0 & 5.2(build 135) Sony HDR-CX550V, Panasonic GH3 with LUMIX G X VARIO 12-35mm / F2.8 ASPH, LUMIX G X VARIO 35-100mm / F2.8

[Stephen Crye]

Yeah I’ve had the same frustration with pitch shift. Would love to know how. I split it and apply the effects to each little event.

It would be cool if it worked like Levels, where you can double-click on the little levels line and add an “anchor” and then slide up and down.

Steve

Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T7500, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM, nVidia Quadro 2000, Vegas 12, 11, 10, 9 DVDA 6.0 & 5.2(build 135) Sony HDR-CX550V, Panasonic GH3 with LUMIX G X VARIO 12-35mm / F2.8 ASPH, LUMIX G X VARIO 35-100mm / F2.8

[Stephen Crye]

I’m still struggling to “calibrate” my new Dell Ultrasharp, so right now I have no idea what I am seeing 😉

But John is right, stupid YT “stretches” the levels. If you have anything between 0 and 16, or between 235 and 255, it will be crushed/blown out.

Does anyone know if Vimeo does the same? I forget, and am too lazy to test ;b

Steve

Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T7500, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM, nVidia Quadro 2000, Vegas 12, 11, 10, 9 DVDA 6.0 & 5.2(build 135) Sony HDR-CX550V, Panasonic GH3 with LUMIX G X VARIO 12-35mm / F2.8 ASPH, LUMIX G X VARIO 35-100mm / F2.8

[Stephen Crye]

The real money shot is how it looks after you upload to YT (or burn the DVD/BluRay and play it on the TV).

If you put it on YT, be sure to post the link, I am curious to see how it turns out.

Steve

Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T7500, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM, nVidia Quadro 2000, Vegas 12, 11, 10, 9 DVDA 6.0 & 5.2(build 135) Sony HDR-CX550V, Panasonic GH3 with LUMIX G X VARIO 12-35mm / F2.8 ASPH, LUMIX G X VARIO 35-100mm / F2.8

[Stephen Crye]

Well I completed the tests using the Sony Vegas “Mercedes” benchmark project.

I’m starting a new thread for those results and the problems I discovered. All I will say about that here is I am very disturbed!

John, still hoping you will commend on the Quadro 2000 vs K4000 question I posted before.

Thanks,

Steve

Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T7500, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM, nVidia Quadro 2000, Vegas 12, 11, 10, 9 DVDA 6.0 & 5.2(build 135) Sony HDR-CX550V, Panasonic GH3 with LUMIX G X VARIO 12-35mm / F2.8 ASPH, LUMIX G X VARIO 35-100mm / F2.8

[Stephen Crye]

Thanks Dave!

I really appreciate the time you and others take to read my posts and reply in such detail.

I hope to do the Vegas rendering project test tonight, I have the files, just need to set them up. I will also do some GPU-off tests.

When you wrote: ” The OpenGL system actually runs a compiler — Vegas sends a higher level description of the problem to your nVidia OpenGL system.”, did you mean OpenCL?

Thanks for the assurance that Vegas is using OpenCL even though that is not explicitly stated anywhere.

Stand by for more results, and thanks again for keeping alive a thread that is getting old.

I hope John replies with his thoughts on the Quadro 2000 vs K4000 question. Although in a few weeks I will have a chance to test, it would mean ripping out the 2000, replacing with the K4000, installing drivers and all that. When I have to return the card I will have to undo all that, makes me nervous.

My Corsair Neutron GTX 480GB SSD drive will be here on Friday – hopefully the clone of the existing C: drive ( a WD Blue 500GB) will go well. After that I plan to use the WD in an external bay for periodic GHOST disk-disk clone backups of the C: drive.

Steve

Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T7500, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM, nVidia Quadro 2000, Vegas 12, 11, 10, 9 DVDA 6.0 & 5.2(build 135) Sony HDR-CX550V, Panasonic GH3 with LUMIX G X VARIO 12-35mm / F2.8 ASPH, LUMIX G X VARIO 35-100mm / F2.8

[Stephen Crye]

OK, I completed the 1st render & upload using the https://www.schuch.net B&W test pattern.

youtube.com/watch?v=oOCgMUQBpW4

The 1st 30 sec of the video has the Sony Computer RGB to Studio RGB level applied. The last 30 sec has no levels applied. When using the RGB parade scope, I see exactly what I would expect – with the levels FX applied, the scope shows everything between 16 and 235:

With no Levels FX, the values stretch to 0-255:

But when viewing the final product from YT, it looks different from both my preview in Vegas and the preview in the 2nd monitor. Not sure what to think, comments welcome.

The test patten made me realize that my monitors on the new computer are not calibrated – I can drag the image from one to another and it looks different! ;p .

Gotta go to bed …

Steve

Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T7500, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM, nVidia Quadro 2000, Vegas 12, 11, 10, 9 DVDA 6.0 & 5.2(build 135) Sony HDR-CX550V, Panasonic GH3 with LUMIX G X VARIO 12-35mm / F2.8 ASPH, LUMIX G X VARIO 35-100mm / F2.8

[Stephen Crye]

Thanks Norman for the very clear and understandable review of this … I don’t know how many times I have understood this and then forgotten!

A long time ago in a version far away ( i.e. about 2 years ago ;-p ) I went hog-wild and did a bunch of test renders, with various footage, with and without the computer RGB to Studio RGB levels thing on, and then uploaded to TY and viewed the results.

I have a clear but possibly false memory that the results were somehow unexpected, hence my desire to repeat the test with SVP 12.

Steve

Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T7500, MultiTB SATA, 8GB RAM, nVidia Quadro 2000, Vegas 12, 11, 10, 9 DVDA 6.0 & 5.2(build 135) Sony HDR-CX550V, Panasonic GH3 with LUMIX G X VARIO 12-35mm / F2.8 ASPH, LUMIX G X VARIO 35-100mm / F2.8