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[Manish Chaudhary] ” it seems like you have lot of experience with monitors and also any other brand like “dell , HP , eizo would be great choice.”
Well, I have experience with BROADCAST monitors…you keep listing COMPUTER DISPLAYS. These are two entirely different things. Computer Displays are designed to connect to a computer to show your workspace. And to be balanced to work on photography and print work. VIDEO monitors for color correction are different. WE are talking broadcast monitors, and HDTVs. NOT computer displays.
Broadcast monitors: Sony, Panasonic, Flanders Scientific, Barco…stuff like that.
Computer displays: Ezio, Dell, HP, Samsung, ASUSIf you are a beginner in color and don’t have a lot of money…low budget…then look at good HDTVs. Samsung are good, as are some Sony’s. But you will need to turn off the default settings as they are meant to oversaturate the image, smooth out 24p to make it 60p…all sorts of things. If you have no experience with color correction displays and what TVs might be good, then you need to hire a reseller who is familiar with this. WHo can turn off those defaults. I have a broadcast monitor, and then an HDTV for larger client viewing, but my HDTV is a Pro Plasma, so it has more professional settings. But if you get a GOOD HDTV, and have someone skilled in broadcast color calibration come and set it up, that’s your best bet.
And part of this budget must also include the Video IO device (Blackmagic) to get the signal to that monitor.
If you are doing mainly WEB work…then the BMD card I listed, and a good HDTV is all you really need. If you are delivering to a network that has specifications that need to be met, and limits on video levels, then you need to start looking at Broadcast monitors.
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Perhaps they aren’t compatible with Yosemite, but are with El Cap?
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For Thunderbolt 3, the Ultrastudio HD Mini will work.
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/ultrastudio
And while the monitor you list won’t be 100% TRUE BROADCAST ACCURATE, not everyone needs that. Being pretty close is fine too. When on a budget, getting pretty close is acceptable. There are HDTVs that people get so they can be close.
Are you doing broadcast work? Or delivery to the web?
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[Bill Davis] “Their business model is doing 2018 work on 2010 hardware?
That just seems kinda nuts.”
When you have 50 edit bays…upgrading machines, and then typically the shared storage as the new machines won’t mesh with the older servers…can be a HUGE expense. Hundreds of thousands of dollars. So yeah, it might take a while to build up the capital to afford to do that. It’s easier when you are a sole operator, or have a handful of machines.
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[manish choudhary] ” i think u talking about x-rite or some other device for color calibration”
Those are to balance computer displays for PHOTOGRAPHY, not video. I’m not sure what to use for video when you have a computer display. I have a Flanders monitor, and that is calibrated differently. Wish I could offer advice on this.
[manish choudhary] “and something from blackmagic and aja like sdi card?”
Well, what computer do you have? There’s the UltraStudio series from BlackMagic for computers with Thunderbolt 2 connections. There’s the INTENSITY for computers with PCIe slots, and even options for USB3 connections. AJA offers internal PCIe cards and Thunderbolt options.
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That monitor might work, but you’ll need a video IO device between your computer and it for accuracy…something from Blackmagic Design or AJA. And it being a computer display, it will only deal with progressive video, not interlaced.
And you’ll need to calibrate it to bars, or have someone do it, so you know it’s accurate for video. But yes, you’ll need a video IO between your computer and it.
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I concur. I thought the main reason for switching being the SHARE option was pretty silly. And sitting around for hours waiting for this? GO for a walk…work on something else. Something
And I always, ALWAYS like to export masters in a high-end format, such as ProRes, for archiving. In case I need the master later for ANY reason (and typically I do…often). SO I always export a master, and then compress that, and then upload.
But that’s me.
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Well, they won’t ship…you have to go TO the store in Orange County/Tustin. So…possible.
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When you play a file in like that in QT, you won’t hear all the tracks. It will play like the first two, maybe. with a 5.1 discreet output like that, you might only hear the music tracks. If you want to hear it all, you need to go into QT Pro, SHOW MOVIE PROPERTIES, and click on the AUDIO TAB and make all the audio MONO or panned L & R. Quicktime can’t play out discreet audio as far as I know. When I QC my exports, I have to go into those settings to set things to MONO so I can make sure it’s all there.
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[Adam Harper] “I guess my logic was that what I saw on my Avid window should be similar to what I’m seeing through Quicktime”
It’s not only that…the Avid interface isn’t designed to be color accurate. The PREVIEW and PROGRAM monitors lighten the images, so that you can see what you are doing if you happen to have dark footage.
[Adam Harper] “though I wasn’t aware that Quicktime changed how it can look”
Yeah, that is a total pain. VLC is better
[Adam Harper] “It’s just a bit of a shame that it feels like it’s going to be a lottery as to whether it will be visible or not depending on what it’s screened on. “
That’s what we have to deal with all the time in the broadcast world. We have no control over what TVs people buy, or how they are set up. Go to Best Buy and look at all the TVs and see how different the images look on them. Also, how Cox communications encodes for it’s delivery is different than Spectrum is different than DirecTV is different than Comcast. What someone in NY sees will be different than what I see in LA.
So all you can do is make sure that you grade the image on an external calibrated broadcast monitor or HDTV. This way YOU know that what you did is solid. Because what happens after that is out of your hands. Sucks, I know. I’ve had producers call me to complain how it looks on their TV…and say “But it looked so good on your system, what happened.” Cox…Cox happened.
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