Shane Chadder
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Paolo
I’ve made the move from Edit to PPro. It is like performing surgury with boxing gloves on. Remapping the keyboard doesn’t solve it because Premiere just doesn’t work the same. Just plan on your edits taking twice as long to start…eventually you get used to the workflow it will always be slower than Edit.
Simple things on Edit like splitting a clip on toggled tracks. You either spit all clips on all tracks or you get your mouse and a razor tool and manual split each track. It drives you nuts. And Premiere is designed to work with stereo tracks so you have to add an audio effect to each clip to isolate ch 1 or ch 2. The mixer is a joke. If you mix a show and decide to remove 10 seconds…the mix stays with the track time, and not the clips. You have to mix clips individually to keep your mix with the clips. Media management is ridiculous after Edit. GOTO in Edit will find every clip with a specific timecode….well Premiere in my experience can find text entries and that is about it.
So I’m praying 2.0 is around the corner because I didn’t find anything else I liked any better.
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Hi Mark
I think I recognize your name from the edit forum? We are partway through moving three *edit systems to PPro and Blackmagic. Offline codecs seem to be limited to the DV codec, plus 8bit and 10 bit uncompressed formats. So far it is working pretty good for our needs. You can mix native DV and uncompressed on the same timeline and the clips play in realtime. Some FX are realtime depending on the complexity and the project settings (uncompressed or DV).
It is quite amazing when the whole SDI capture card is 1/4 the price of adding SDI to an existing Digisuite card. In some ways Digisuite did more in realtime with the realtime overlay for graphics, and real time level corection, but the renders haven’t driven us to Axio yet. If Matrox had bothered to write PPro drivers for Digisuite they would have had an easier time porting us all to Axio, we would have learned PPro already. (It is the turnkey thing that has disuaded me from Axio, the card itself seems a reasonable value.)
Shane Chadder
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Found it. Thanks.
BTW thanks also for fixing the DV field issues in 5.1.2.
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5.0 or later drives on windows will do it…but the fields are reversed. They are working on it.
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Hi
I’ve got the bonus card. The middle bnc is input. One of the others is output and the remainder is genlock. The 9 pin is 422 and the rca does spdif I think….haven’t tried that one.
Yes some documentation on the web site would be nice.
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I think with the Panasonics machines you can set them to play DV out instead of pro can’t you? There isn’t any difference in the field order, just some of the header info I think. I’ve captured 60 hours of Pro into Premiere and it just treats it as DV.
I have the same problem with Window’s Premiere captured dv fields being playing reversed in an uncompressed 8bit BM project. Does it only happen on the DL output? The firewire output is fine?
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Matt
The problem still exists in NTSC as well in 5.11 (for me anyway).
DV clips captured in premiere play fine in a DV job (out SDI) but the same clips loaded into an 8bit uncompressed BM seem to play with the fields reversed…the reverse fields toggle does nothing, the deinterlace helps.
Shane
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Matt
If I build one of your currently approved systems that have a couple of PCI express slots will it “likely” work?
Will the Multibridge PCI express have any more “realtime” advantages over buying the the euqivalent “bits” ie multibridge, Decklink, HDLink?
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Sorry, better subject heading.
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Thanks Rich
The mixed formats make sense to me to. Why uncompress dv to take up 5x the disk space when there is nothing to be gained. If you can work native DV on an uncompressed timeline all your renders will be uncompressed and everything else passes through as camera original.
I know of Avid’s DV express, but most of our equipment is SDI and I think you have to go up to Adrenaline to get SDI. Canopus Edius is very good that way, (can mix Pal and NTSC realtime to) but again getting SDI i/o is a premium closed box.
There are a couple of other boxes that will do mixed timelines, Leitch’s Velocity and Matrox’s Axio. We may get one of these for packaging work but it is overkill for long form docs where something like Decklink may be enough.
Decisions decisions.