Sean Oneil
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[A_United_Struggle] “So I
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Short answer, it can’t be done.
Long answer, XML is not a universal standard that can be used to interchange projects between different non-linear editing systems. It’s a markup language used for all kinds of things, even web sites. The way Apple uses XMLs for their NLE and the way Media 100 does are completely different from one another. The reason I know this is because I did indeed try to figure out a way to convert between the two. Upon examining the XMLs, they are both drastically different from each other.
One example is that Apple uses fields to determine actual SMTP timecode numbers. Media 100 instead uses a number that represents the amount of frames. In other words, Apple would call the duration of a 5 sec clip “00:00:05:00”, while Media 100 would call it “150” frames long.
That’s just one example. There’s a lot more. It would take ages to figure out a way to translate between the two.
Sean
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Any info? The situation hasn’t changed. I’ve tried it on another system, one that has a Decklink HD Plus. Same thing. Channels 1-4 only.
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Multiclips can be synced using timecode. SMTP timecode is formated like a daily clock. Hours:Minutes:Seconds:Frames, and it resets at 24 hours. That’s probably what they meant.
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I think everyone’s missed the point here. Something is totally screwed up with his hardware. I 100% agree that editing DVCProHD on that thing is not ideal and if you can afford that format, you can afford an $800 SATA array. But he’s having trouble playing back just one stream which is totally not right. That drive is more than capapble of it and he shouldn’t have problems like that from just one stream doing regular playback. I’m inclined to think his FW bus is clogged up with other devices, or he has a defective FW drive.
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NTSC from a Digibeta.
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[Tom Wolsky] “I misphrased that, only the subclips from which pieces of media were taken, will need to be recaptured. But the whole subclip will have to be recaptured, but only the subclips that were used.”
So are you saying that the portions of those subclips which are not in your sequence are still being recaptured? Well that’s a huge problem and it’s exactly what we’re talking about. It is not supposed to work that way. People can argue that if they like, but other non-linear editors like…. I dunno, FInal Cut 4, Final Cut 5 is the only one I’ve seen with this limitation. The whole purpose of the “delete unused media” option is so that you are only digitizing footage that is in your seuqence (plus handles that you specify).
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I don’t think you did try it. I’m not calling you a liar, I just think you missed the key element which is to throw away all the media first. I know I wouldn’t trash all my media just to test this out. This is not a typical “uprez” online. This is once the media is already gone. Step by step, did you do this?
1. Digitize an hour tape (or whatever)
2. Mark an in and out in the viewer to make a 30 sec clip.
3. Drag it into a sequence
4. Save and Quit. DELETE THE MEDIA FILE(S) from this project in your capture scratch folder. Empty the trash.
5. Start the project up and ignore the missing media.
6. Ctrl-click the seqence and select Media Manager.
7. Choose “Create Offline”.
8. Check “Delete Unused Media”
9. Uncheck “Include Master Clips Outside selection”
10. Select a place to save a new project.
11. Hit ok. Close the old project and work in the new one.
12. Ctrl-click the sequence and hit “batch capture”Is the capture time 30 seconds or 1 hour? If you followed these steps and it’s 30 seconds, it will be the first I have heard this confirmed. Again, nobody has yet said “Yes, I trashed all my media first and it still works in Final Cut 5”. Trust me it doesn’t work. And if it does work for you (which I really don’t think it will), then it doesn’t work for some people which is still a huge problem. Now on to the troubleshooting.
1. Select the sequence and choose “Make sequence clips independent” – doesn’t work.
2. Select all the clips in the sequence and choose “create subclips” – it won’t create them because the media is missing
3. Drag the clips into a new project. Select them and make them independent. – still doesn’t work.If all your clips were already subclips, then perhaps it will work. In fact it probably will. But that’s not part of my workflow nor is it supposed to be required for batch capturing portions of source footage once the media is offline.
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B Russ, thanks for trying to help (my company put together the EPK for your movie BTW).
There are no speed changes in what I was trying to recapture. I think you’ve missed the key ingredient here. It’s when the media is already gone, deleted, trashed, offline. That is when this problem occurs, the problem where MM’s “make offline” and “delete unused media” whilst making sure not to “include master clips outside of selection” does not work.
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[TK] “If you leave “Include Master Clips”, MM will not delete the unused media. I’ve done a set of MM tests to see what works and what doesn’t. Also watch out for clips that are running backwards. “
Gee, ya think. No kidding. Read the first post. I mean actually read it. The part where I said “uncheck Include Master Clips” doesn’t work. This and other unhelpful posts do nothing but confuse the situation and are probably a reason why Apple hasn’t fixed it. There’s even someone telling me to “calm down” because he knows it works in 4.5 so it must work in 5.02. Unbelievable. No, I will not calm down, and I can’t help but laugh at the arrogant replies I’ve seen from people who haven’t even tried it. Yes, I used MM in 4.5 w/o this problem and I know how it works. And I actually like MM.
CharlieX and others have discovered the same thing. There are only two groups of people here. Those who’ve tried it and discovered the problem in FCP 5, and those who haven’t tried it yet. Again, once the media is already trashed and the media is offline, then it is IMPOSSIBLE to recapture a sequence without recapturing all of the source footage (unless you actually change the source TC for the clips, totally impractical for a normal workflow).
I have something to say to the FCP 5 users who have actually tried this and not experienced the problem. Say hello to Bigfoot and the Tooth Fairy for me. Because like them, you don’t exist.
Just wait until FCP 5 has been around for a few more months and you have to rebuild an old sequence that’s been offline for a while. You’ll figure it out soon enough.
Sorry for acting like a jerk, but I’m really ticked off. If these kinds of responses didn’t happen the first time this issue was discussed, and people actually tried it and discovered it themseleves instead of screaming “NEWBIE!” then perhaps it would have been fixed in the 5.02 update. I know everyone’s just trying to help, but it doesn’t help to blurt out things without following what’s going on.