Russ Froze
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Strange, Vegas stores the file path and the name in the veg. The file name will be the last bit of the string and with that info you can search in all the unlikely places. Sorry it does not help you.
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Try opening the veg file in notepad and somewhere in the script should be the path to the original file including the file name. And do not save the notepad file or you may destroy the veg file.
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OK. the aspect ratio thing is a problem indeed. But not in the way that one might think. The problem is not with the film, the problem lies within the viewer. One must understand that the aspect ratio was chosen by the Producer, Director and Director of Photography. These forces battled it out between cost and esthetics and at the end if the day the Director shot the film specifically for the chosen format. Deciding to alter the aspect ratio is much akin to adding seasoning to a carefully prepared meal in a restaurant. The aspect ratio issue is not a new one. Television a native 4:3 at birth fought to bring Theater shows onto the small scree. Pan and scan works well enough for cramming wide screen in 4:3 but forcing a 4:3 into 16:9 strangely enough has the same detrimental impact on the resulting image. Thankfully A.I. has come along and will uprez the standard you 720 x 480 sd footage to 1440 x 1080 very easily while increasing sharpness and detail. You may have to add some motion blur after. If you uprez to 2880 then you can fill the 16:9 screen and scan and pan the 4:3 aspect ratio in the 16:9 window. It is a lot of trouble and something I use to breathe life into my collection of rare SD stock footage.
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So it turns out to be a codec issue. My bad not asking which codec was stuck in the avi wrapper. There I was assuming there were gigabytes of avi files when in reality tiny XVid files are in use. Had I known XVid was in use then I would have informed that vegas does not support XVid natively. FYI XVid is a delivery codec and not meant for editing that is why Sony chose not to support it natively. Anyway glad to hear things got done which is the main reason we even start projects. Just a suggestion. For best results replace the XVid files with the original mov files when imported to FCP if possible. This will give access to better final render. Just a thought.
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Yup that is a head scratcher for sure. It’s been a long time since I looked at Veg 8 but as I recall Version 8 is still a 32 bit application. Is that correct? If so check the video files and see if they are over the 32 bit file size limit.
I do not recall the 32 bit file size limitations but 2 GB seems to come to mind. I could easily be mistaken and checking this may be a good idea.
The question is does your version of Vegas support the video file size in use? It may be that vegas is not at fault.
What happens when you pack up all the files and bring them to the machine with Vegas 13 installed?
Yes chances are you will need to reassociate the files in Vegas 13 but it will be a one time affair.Also from my experience with exporting from Vegas to Final cut, having more than one layer on the vegas timeline tends to be problematic.
The exported Final cut script comes into final cut upside down and in some cases will not load at all.
So I generally made certain there was but one video and audio track in a Vegas project before exporting a script to final Cut.
Strangely if I went through Premier the Vegas export did make it into Premier in tact. From premier I would then export to Final Cut.
But first, check if your machine and the version of Vegas supports the file size.
That is where I would start to look for problems. It’s just a thought and I have been known to be mistaken.
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Hi, if short on cash I suggest BMD Davinci Resolve 15. I do not want to sell the product here in Vegas forum bot lets just say since I started using the software I have not needed to spend any money on NLE and or plugins. You name it and their system will do it. Still for fast cutting and getting the project out the door Vegas is very good and lightweight enough to easily run on a portable. What you seek to do can be done in Vegas but the question is if Vegas is the best tool for the job. I struggled for years trying to make Vegas do what others do and have had some success but not without 3ed party plugins and the costs for those really add up fast. To save yourself time and money look around and notice there are quite a few choices when it comes to creating a pipeline. A pipeline is simply the workflow that one follows in order to get the job done. So naturally you will want footage and how it is brought into the NLE is a part of the pipeline. So is where and how the raw footage is stored or not when the project is finished. The choice of the NLE (Vegas) is also a part of the pipeline. Do not be afraid to insert a toolset that will compliment the pipeline. I understand that learning different software is a daunting task, so get some new software and look at it study it find out what others are saying and how they use it. In short broaden your horizons. You will get more accomplished and feel good about yourself, more secure in the knowledge that you can sit and edit on more that one system. My advice is to look around and find there is more than Vegas and Adobe and BMD has a really great tool for free in Davinci Resolve which now has a built in in version of the world renowned compositor called Fusion and of course there are the color grading tools which have always been world class. Also the audio section is no slouch either. Anyway those are my thoughts and yes I still use Vegas it does have a spot in the pipeline but it is not the pipeline. That is the point, Vegas is but one small part of the tools I use.
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so does that mean the problem is solved for now?
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Hello again,
Please review this video, it may give some insight to the workings of the plugin. If the explanayion is way off base let me know.RF
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Hi again, first off, VLC has it’s very own codec installed wich is based on the FFMPEG Codec and open source codec. That said Vegas depends on external codecs, that is why third party codec packs cam be installed and used by Vegas. A quick history about YT codecs. Way back when Adobe acquired Macromedia, Adobe informed the creators of the then defacto streaming media codec ON2 Media that their services are no longer needed. ON2 had developed a codec VP7 to replace the VP6 or FLV as it was generally known. Now Adobe decided to ransom YT for the use of the FLV code meaning an aggressive takeover of YT. Meanwhile the now set adrift company known as ON2 Media was quietly acquired by some catalogue company called Google. Google then did an end run and purchased YT for 6 Billion and with codec in hand snatched the prize out of the hands of Adobe. On2 media went on to create a codec in use by YT wich is marketed as webm. In reality webn is ON2 tect codec version VP 8 and is free to download. You can read more here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VP8
The point is that installing VP 8 may well give vegas the codec needed to edit YT videos.It is also true that an earlier version of QT 7 is needed on win boxes for Vegas to access mov and some mp4 files. Be aware that the owners of QT refuse to release a 64 bit version for any OS other than Apple wich in effect give the illusion that they offer a superior product.
Question: On the previous instal that worked, was Vegas 14 installed as a clean instal or was it a Vegas 13 upgrade. You know the point in time where MAgix refused to pay for the Main Concept Licence. It may well be that the missing main concept codec may have been used to read the files if the Vegas 14 install was an upgrade from Version 13. But that is mere conjecture on my part.
So if there is a burning need to natively edit YT files that are not H264 encoded but rather WebM then the following link will get you started. Pay attention to what you are downloading and installing. Follow instructions. And let us know how it turns out. I would instal it myself but I managed to get VP8 from On2 Tech long ago when FLV was king of the streaming web.
Here is the link to webm
https://www.webmproject.org/tools/
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I don’t know if this will help but have a look here https://library.creativecow.net/articles/ezzy_paul/Boris-Extruded-Logo/video-tutorial.
It;s been a long time since I used Red but I remember doing the work you describe with success.
Let me know if this helps
RF