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Oh… and I also say that simply being able to PLAY the project is quite the speed-plus. Especially for editing, don’t you think?
– RK
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Robin S. kurz
January 7, 2016 at 8:41 pm in reply to: Where is an editing program with Automated Speech Recognition?[Michael Phillips] “How do you download the components needed to make it local? WOuld love to run these tests again without the 30 second limit. “
Simply go to the dictation system setting and check “Use Enhanced Dictation”.
And by no means am I saying that it is some sort of replacement for human transcription. Testing on a video like that of things (which I bizarrely had just finished watching about two minutes before I saw your post… what are the odds) may not exactly be the perfect choice. Something along the lines of an interview or dialog scene would possibly yield better results, as in my tests. But then I personally don’t expect 100% accuracy (yet) either, as long as certain keywords were recognized, in which case around 75% would be great. And either way it would be better than nothing. And if e.g. as a note on a favorite (as described), small edits/corrections aren’t a big deal if needed.
As always, YMMV.
– RK
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Robin S. kurz
January 7, 2016 at 6:57 pm in reply to: Where is an editing program with Automated Speech Recognition?[Brett Sherman] “The thing is, where is it? The technology is there. Siri… “
Ironically, and I think I mentioned it here before, I in fact used Siri (i.e. OS X’s built in dictation) to transcribe clips before. And yes, it’s something I’ve been calling for ever since, as a “unified feature” for FCP, since even though it had its caveats then and even more now, it basically worked really well as far as the recognition went. It just needed to be willing to work around the PITA parts. 😀
I would open a clip with the Quicktime Player and play it (with needed pre-roll). While playing, I’d jump into FCP, with the cursor already in the “Notes” field of a previous marked favorite (the segment I wanted to transcribe) and, with an external microphone, simply hit the shortcut for dictation, hold the mic up to the speaker and away I went. It actually worked amazingly well in terms of recognition and I had the favorites “tagged” with what was in fact said. So in principle it actually worked! After that I could search words and have it filter out *just that* section/favorite.
This was when dictation was first introduced (10.8?). So the primary caveat (the PITA part) was, that it wouldn’t take more than 30 secs at a time, had to be sent to the Siri cloud and come back. And the hectic switching back and forth to not miss the mark.
Since then, two major things happened. 1. the dictation has been moved locally (if you download the needed files) and become near realtime with that, which is very cool… but… 2. for whatever reason, the speakers are MUTED now, the moment you hit the dictation shortcut! Whaa? So the whole idea pretty much imploded with that. Aside from the fact that there were the major finger acrobatics involved (switching back and forth and hitting everything at the right moment) to even get it to work halfway with the first version. So I never really really got past an experimentation phase i.e. “proof of concept”.
So yes, ever since I have thought pretty much the exact same thing! The software is there… why couldn’t Apple simply open a “channel” from FCP to the OS’s own dictation?? It’s all there and it all works superbly by itself… why not simply connect the dots?
We’ll see if it ever comes to fruition.
– RK
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[Herb Sevush] “About a month ago there was a very long thread (disclaimer – started by me) with the title “What is Editing Speed?” that you might be interested in.”
Not about to go through a 211 post thread, but thanks. And I know that export is not relevant to you in terms of “editing speed”. But then, yes, it’s much more something like THIS for me, too (along side a loooong list of other things):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRZgVZd9UmQ
In which case I’d say FCP 7 in that example is interchangeable with pretty much any other (track-based) NLE out there.
To each his own (speed)!
– RK
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Uh… sure.
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I’m just curious: why would anyone that actually bought the software refuse to update (for free) the full 16 times they could have within the last four years??
– RK
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[Scott Witthaus] ” I just want to have to ability to size the ‘chicklets’ like you can in any other view mode (meaning adjust the clip height with that slider).”
Hmmm… but doesn’t that pretty much defeat the purpose of that display-mode? I’m also not clear on what you would stand to gain without thumbnails and/or waveforms showing, since that’s all that is affected by the scaling. But again, then why not simply use one of the first three modes as described above? And if thumbnails and waveforms are actually that much of an issue, simply collapse everything in the roles panel in addition (⌘clicking one collapses/uncollapses all at once btw)… bingo, best of all the above worlds and you can even use all five of the other options for varying results or “customization”, no?
Have still yet to hear how or why that isn’t a solution to the “problem”… but I’m fairly sure I know why. 😉
And I just showed a class the PE the other day btw, for fine-tuning their roughs and they absolutely loved it. Having the handles visible directly in context was extremely helpful for them. One even asked why PPro didn’t have something like that. And even if I might not use it every day myself, when I do, I love that it’s an option and a very unique and useful one at that imho. But an optional two-up while skimming the handles would be nice, yes. Whereby I don’t see how it qualifies as “eye-candy” either, since you don’t even SEE it unless you’re using it. And if you don’t use it, why should one care if it’s there or not? Or is just anything I don’t need or use automatically eye-candy on principle? 😀
I’ve also heard many calls for the PE in secondaries (which I would second), so it’s being used and appreciated by many apparently.
– RK
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[phil sheldon] “putting a nasty outline on some text”
That actually appears to be a weird bug in the behavior. What you’re seeing is the initial “Blur” state that is subsequently animated. For some reason, even when set to ZERO, it is still applying an ever so small amount of blur that peeks out from behind, which it of course shouldn’t. Unfortunately there’s no easy solution that I can find.
– RK
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You may consider the few bucks for this: https://amzn.to/1TCqF0b and see if there is any useful information in there for you.
– RK
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[Scott Witthaus] “But I would really like the ability to re-size the clips in this view like all the other views. Am i missing something?”
Apparently the first three display options, yes. 😉
– RK
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