[Robin S. kurz]

[Joe Marler] “Re other issues, for years FCPX was vastly faster than Premiere at exporting to H.264. This performance lead has now evaporated. After seven years of not supporting Quick Sync, Premiere CC on the Mac can export to H.264 as rapidly as FCPX.”

Sorry, but that is just plain false.

https://youtu.be/IkkVLFFxaUI

… which also mirrors my own tests 100% btw. Adobe will also never get PPro there without a complete rewrite, sorry. But I guess that’s what the “Project Rush” is all about.

– RK

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[Robin S. kurz]

Maybe something along these lines?

https://www.motionvfx.com/mplugs-150.html

– RK

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[Robin S. kurz]

Both. If you have the right CALLOUTS PLUGIN that is.

https://www.motionvfx.com/store,search,callouts,3,0,1,1.html

– RK

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[Simon Ubsdell] “To be pedantic…”

Very, and I’m thinking unnecessarily, pedantic, yes. Since if his numbering was set to start from (the non-standard) ZERO, then he would have to have actively changed it himself, in which case I’m guessing the question would not have come up to begin with? ????

But sure… for the record.

I’m just confused that the title said “SOLVED” right from the get go… wha? ????

– RK

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[Robin S. kurz]

[Soutine Berger] “What happened to the last 1/2 second?”

Erm… half second?? What’s your math behind that? ????

Either way, what you’re seeing is 100% correct. FRAMES start at ONE, TIME starts at ZERO. Therefore 9:29 is logically the last frame of 10 seconds.

– RK

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[Peter DeArmond] “This describes me perfectly.”

And you’re far from alone. I’d say that describes the vast majority of Mac users/buyers. Something that “professional” hubris apparently doesn’t allow for: common sense.

A friend of mine, who is a little above the average user, since he does a lot of editing with iMovie, just sold his eleven year old iMac for 50€ after he accidentally cracked the screen. Yeah, 50€ for an eleven year old broken machine and there were multiple people interested within the first day of advertising! Even I was amazed.

I’d love to see anyone get so much as ONE € for even a five year old pristine PC they bought “super cheap!”. Not.

And really… what is this moronic “Apple doesn’t care about the ‘pros’ anymore!” nonsense anyway? There are literally millions of pros in all areas that are super happy with what they have. And even if Apple wasn’t interested in the “pro” market (which they clearly ARE)… could anyone blame them?? The endless self-proclaiming “pros” are the biggest whiners, by default always need that GHz or slot-port-exe-bat more (for HALF the price of course!) than anything that Apple offers up and are just an overall PITA with some bizarr sense of entitlement. All the while earning Apple near nothing on the grand scale.

So what exactly do these people think Apple owes them? Why in the world should Apple be happy and thankful that they of all people choose to use their products? I think Apple’s actually secretly relieved if they wonder off and fiddle together their own little technical Frankenstein.

Don’t like it? Don’t buy it! That how the market works… surprise! All the power to ya. Goodbye and good riddance. Go chew Dell’s/ASUS’s/Microsoft’s/whatever’s ears off. Meanwhile they’ll be over there selling more and more and more machines just fine without you. ????

– RK

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[Bernard Newnham] “at BBCtv”

Oh, right. The people that just switched to Final Cut Pro X for news globally not too long ago? Yes, very familiar (and friendly) with them.

And yes, the fact that I played a bit with hyperbole and sarcasm to make an overall point is a given. With PCs YMMV a LOT, most certainly.

Oh and btw?

https://www.jamf.com/blog/total-cost-of-ownership-mac-versus-pc-in-the-enterprise/

TL;DR? Ok… just a taste:

“Let’s recap those staggering findings
While Mac hardware alone is more expensive than PCs, there are many more factors to consider when deploying Macs. Thanks to most core services moving to the cloud and becoming cross platform, the cost is now a wash between Mac and PC.

Any organization serious about managing and securing Windows will need to add additional software and tools to the cost of their cheap PC, as opposed to having those features built into the operating system with Mac. Finally, when you add on the cost of management tools and support, the total cost of ownership gap can potentially be huge for an organization. In fact, IBM found they saved between $273 – $513 per Mac they deployed compared to PCs.”

And there are endless such reports. Have been for years. Based on objective facts and numbers, not subjective opinions and personal preference.

So yeah, be sure to save as much as possible going in, definitely. If you’re lucky, it’ll actually work out in the end. ????

– RK

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[Dominic Deacon] “As for them not being cheaper I’m not sure how Mac people keep making this claim.”

I dunno… maybe by actually watching the video?

So we’ll just completely ignore that there isn’t even a single “Mac people” in the video to begin with (oops), and that I explicitly stated SPEC FOR SPEC (you even quoted it! :-D), which you (of course) didn’t do, AND said “whilst leaving out everything else” which you did, right? Maybe try re-reading for context and better comprehension? Therefor just another irrelevant, contrived example with the usual shifting of goal posts by miles, whilst ironically accusing others of doing just that. So it’s, fittingly, yet another apple’s and orange’s comparison once again.

A Mac doesn’t do it for you or you can’t afford one? Great, go with your PC or any number of endless options you have. Who cares? I’m pretty sure Apple for one don’t. Especially when they look at their (ever growing) numbers. Just maybe try not to ignore (and feel so horribly threatened by) clearly stated and proven facts as a (rather clumsy) justification for said decision?

[Dominic Deacon] “entry level iMac Pro (which I couldn’t get my work done on)”

But of course not. And your full-time job is WHAT exactly? Do tell.

[Dominic Deacon] “superior as far as CPU and GPU go“

Ouch. Just as I said and predicted, yes. And absolutely nothing more beyond that. Maybe re-read the “Who could possibly deny that?” part in particular?

So thanks for missing the entire point and confirming it all at the same time. ????

– RK

[Robin S. kurz]

Meaning? Which part of that was supposed to be constructive? Or more you don’t have anything (of value) to add, you just came to troll?

[Robin S. kurz]

[Eric Santiago] “Maybe my blood is Apple kool-aid but honestly, do people write these doom and gloom topics (similar to the trash regular news readers are faced) just for shock value?”

I personally find it mostly ironic, when a software maker, whose software will run brilliantly on every single machine you can get today, are the ones fighting for (I guess) the commoners, writing…

“Their current failure to keep the Mac lineup fresh […]is both baffling and frightening to anyone who depends on the platform for their livelihood.”

… since they themselves AND their customers certainly couldn’t actually be adversely affected in the context of their software. Or am I missing something? Because this is not some high-end 3D or video app creator we’re talking about. So who do they figure they speaking for?

“Every day, the situation becomes more dire.”

Seriously? No hyperbole there, hm? Based on what? For which customers and what are they doing? They have no other options? What “dire” position are they putting themselves in by buying a current Mac? I still don’t know. Which is why, imho, the whole thing can only be considered the usual low hanging fruit of click-bait. Which clearly worked as intended I guess.

Then there are those that e.g. buy a Mac Mini for the mere purpose of saving a buck, figure out a year later (or much sooner) it’s not near enough for their inflated expectations and somehow that somehow ends up being APPLE’S fault? Perturbed that it doesn’t have the same performance of an iMac. Scandal! ????

That said, I most certainly am always very happy to see new hardware just as much as the next guy. I also agree that it is strange to say the least that e.g. the Mac Mini (which I personally don’t actually care about) has neither seen an update NOR even so much as a minor price drop in nearly four years. Wow… hadn’t realized. And yes, I’d also love to see the next Mac Pro sooner (as in 2018) rather than later. If only to shut the “Apple doesn’t care about PROS!” blather up for a week or two. Which of course is a utopian dream either way, since we all know the silence will never last even THAT long, regardless of what Apple releases or not. I could even name names today…

But, for me, really the true hypocrisy of it all lies in the people reciting things like the “It’s not the tool (NLE), it’s the artist!!” mantra over and over, being the exact same lamenting over supposed inadequate hardware or features. So which is it? It matters or it doesn’t?? Whichever makes you sound more demanding, discerning or that much more PRO at that moment? Whilst the true meaning of “PRO” for me lies in exactly NOT identifying oneself by what’s on one’s desk, but rather the results. Or maybe all that’s just to distract from what one lacks in actual ability, creativity and confidence? Me often thinks: yup.

It’s not my fault I can’t do a good job… APPLE screwed me over!! ????????‍♂️

And in the end one has to ask, if the Macs today are just so horrible, outdated and, with that, utterly inadequate, why did the numbers go UP not DOWN in 2017 alone, no?! I guess ALL the tens of millions of buyers are just soulless, ignorant, low-brow tools drinking the Kool-Aid? Which, oh irony, logically includes by argumentum e contrario each and every person interested in this forum (other than for trolling). Or what else exactly is the logic there?

OR… are they maybe just people that know what they need, see those needs served best (if not exceeded) NOW by the current lineup, don’t need to compare GHz and Teraflops with the next guy just to feel good, and therefore are not worried about their imaginary “PRO” reputation or upgradability in 5-10 years?

I’d probably go with the latter.

– RK

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