Peter Litwinowicz
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Ah, here’s another thing I didn’t see in your original post:
You said Automatic DUck or Boris XML Tool can work by ” keyframing every single frame”
if that’s the case, then you are in luck.
I presume the tool that keyframes every frame does so by applying After Effects Time Remapping?
if so place Twixtor on the clip in a precomp (let’s call it PRECOMP)…. leave the speed setting at 100%. Then put this in another comp (let’s call this FINAL COMP) and copy the timing curve that Automatic Duck or Boris XML creates on the footage you are retiming to a time remap curve you create within the FINAL COMP.
In this way you can use AE to control the retiming curve (which comes from FCP), but use Twixtor “under the hood” to create the retimed footage.
So you project would look something like this:
PRECOMP: inside this you have your original footage. Twixtor is applied with 100% speed. (don’t worry we’ll retime this in the second comp).
FINAL COMP: inside it is PRECOMP, and the time remapping curve is the one that is frame-by-frame that you had translated from FCP.
If you have trouble with this after you import a timing curve from FCP into an AE project, let us know and we can help further. Send a sample project (with timing curve) to techsupport (at) revisionfx (dot) com. No need to send media.
Pete
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Ah, here’s another thing I didn’t see in your original post:
You said Automatic DUck or Boris XML Tool can work by ” keyframing every single frame”
if that’s the case, then you are in luck.
I presume the tool that keyframes every frame does so by applying After Effects Time Remapping?
if so place Twixtor on the clip in a precomp (let’s call it PRECOMP)…. leave the speed setting at 100%. Then put this in another comp (let’s call this FINAL COMP) and copy the timing curve that Automatic Duck or Boris XML creates on the footage you are retiming to a time remap curve you create within the FINAL COMP.
In this way you can use AE to control the retiming curve (which comes from FCP), but use Twixtor “under the hood” to create the retimed footage.
So you project would look something like this:
PRECOMP: inside this you have your original footage. Twixtor is applied with 100% speed. (don’t worry we’ll retime this in the second comp).
FINAL COMP: inside it is PRECOMP, and the time remapping curve is the one that is frame-by-frame that you had translated from FCP.
If you have trouble with this after you import a timing curve from FCP into an AE project, let us know and we can help further. Send a sample project (with timing curve) to techsupport (at) revisionfx (dot) com. No need to send media.
Pete
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Great. You are home free.
just use Twixtor within AE. Why don’t you download the demo and try it out? There’s a manual that’s installed with the plugin upon installation… so be sure to look for it.
Also, we have help tutorials here at the Cow! https://library.creativecow.net/tutorials/revisionfx/2 (start at the bottom and work backwards, they are in reverse chonological order…
(or, more directly:
https://library.creativecow.net/freitag_lori/twixtor-overview/1
https://library.creativecow.net/articles/freitag_lori/twixtor-speed-ramping.php
https://library.creativecow.net/articles/freitag_lori/twixtor-lip-synch.php
etc.)
pete -
Great. You are home free.
just use Twixtor within AE. Why don’t you download the demo and try it out? There’s a manual that’s installed with the plugin upon installation… so be sure to look for it.
Also, we have help tutorials here at the Cow! https://library.creativecow.net/tutorials/revisionfx/2 (start at the bottom and work backwards, they are in reverse chonological order…
(or, more directly:
https://library.creativecow.net/freitag_lori/twixtor-overview/1
https://library.creativecow.net/articles/freitag_lori/twixtor-speed-ramping.php
https://library.creativecow.net/articles/freitag_lori/twixtor-lip-synch.php
etc.)
pete -
Well, Twixtor is a plugin and works with whatever the host application converts the RED footage to. So are you happy with the program you are using to edit this footage? For example, RED is easily read into After Effects (and then you can apply Twixtor with AE). We also support many other applications, like FCP, Premiere Pro, etc.
What host application would you want to use Twixtor within?
Pete -
Well, Twixtor is a plugin and works with whatever the host application converts the RED footage to. So are you happy with the program you are using to edit this footage? For example, RED is easily read into After Effects (and then you can apply Twixtor with AE). We also support many other applications, like FCP, Premiere Pro, etc.
What host application would you want to use Twixtor within?
Pete -
I’ve just contacted Automatic Duck to ask them about why their speed changes aren’t converted to AE properly. If that works, or we can get them to fix any problem, then that’s a very good way to do it.
What version of Automatic Duck’s product are you using?
Pete -
I’ve just contacted Automatic Duck to ask them about why their speed changes aren’t converted to AE properly. If that works, or we can get them to fix any problem, then that’s a very good way to do it.
What version of Automatic Duck’s product are you using?
Pete -
You are just hitting a problem with optical flow retiming. The jacket is moving fast and changing shape, and is crossing against a background… and this is problematic for software that retimes by only “seeing” in 2D.
If you read the manual that was installed with the plugin, you’ll see a list of problematic types of footage and some suggestions for how to deal with some of the problems. There are other problems that will just be problematic no matter what.
Pete -
You are just hitting a problem with optical flow retiming. The jacket is moving fast and changing shape, and is crossing against a background… and this is problematic for software that retimes by only “seeing” in 2D.
If you read the manual that was installed with the plugin, you’ll see a list of problematic types of footage and some suggestions for how to deal with some of the problems. There are other problems that will just be problematic no matter what.
Pete