Mark Stuart
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Hi Johannes
I am also having a frame drop problem with Encore.
.vob file created by Encore CS6 has a frame jump 1 min 10 seconds in. (Looks like 1 frame missing, creating a jump)
.m2v file from Edius or Procoder is perfect, without frame dropEncore is not transcoding. I cannot figure out why muxing m2v + ac3 is causing this.
Footage is PAL 50i
Jump is just with picture. Sound doesnt jump.
All tests negative, have not found a cause or solution so far.
Have used encore for a couple of years and not noticed before. Maybe havent had fast movement at jump point or maybe a new issue?
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Just tested Encore CS6 on Mac and still bugged. Doesn’t look like Adobe have been doing any development at all in 4+ years on the BD output side of things. Looks like the inner works were locked down when Adobe bought from Sonic many moons ago… Adobe just developing the interface and integration with other Adobe apps. Shame the re-write to 64 bit has converted the old bugs across…
2 Pass VBR H.264 >25mbs throwing up same error messages. 1 pass CBR 25mb/s fine.
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In the same boat, I couldnt understand why XDCAM transfer .mov’s from OSX wouldnt play on PC. This thread confirms!
In my case I will re-ingest native .mxf from XDCAM discs but if I had a large library, slightly annoying having to pay out $90 for a 3rd party solution. https://www.calibratedsoftware.com/store/item_view.asp?estore_itemid=1000002
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Anyone tried using this plugin with Sony XDCAM?
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I doubt this loop point freeze has been fixed but anyone tried recently with CS5.5 can confirm?
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Same problem with Encore CS5. Googled and found this old thread.
DVD output from encore works perfect, Blu-ray is bugged.
Change same project to Blu-ray, previews perfect but when output to a folder or disc. Motion menu plays for a second to my loop point 1 second in, pauses then carries on after a bit of a jump. The problem is only on first play of the menu. When the menu gets to the end (2 min 33 sec) in my case it loops back to the loop point 1 sec in which is correct.
Looking inside the BDMV/STREAM folder there is 2 menu .m2ts files. A bigger file size one which has the 1 sec extra and another that starts at the looping point. It would appear that Encore is incorrectly telling the menu to switch assets during the first play at the looping point. This bug is only with blu-ray only. DVD is OK.
My blu-ray output has another unrelated problem. One of the menu buttons links to a chapter playlist. When the button is activated, there is a pause and then returns back to the same menu playing the first time round bug above again. The chapter of the movie it should go to is not played. Again, this functionality works fine with DVD. Double checked all links and all OK. Again this previews correct in Encore disc preview. Problem is only on blu-ray folder/disc output.
Are these blu-ray bugs that have been around since CS3?
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Thanks for confirming Mary that its not just me or my system.
Dont look like anyone knows of a cause or fix! Mods? Anyone?
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As far as Real Time goes. Since my first NLE system (FAST video machine with DPR) in 1995, then Premiere/Matrox then Canopus/Edius – for the last 12 years I have always monitored full frame rate, full resolution SD video out to an external monitor. I consider it a basic requirement to see at all times exactly what the finished output will look like on a properly calibrated PAL monitor. My aging 3ghz single CPU intel PC with Edius/Canopus hardware does 4 layers picture in picture or you can stack up to 3 colour correction and other filters, audio filters plus perfect quality slowmotion and transitions all in RT to PAL monitor or down FW to a deck. A more up to date spec PC and RAID will do more layers and filters or with the newer Canopus hardware will give this kind of RT with HD whilst outputing component HD externally at the same time. If a decklink or AJA card gave any acceleration to Vegas then fine, but as far as I can gather these cards only give more input/output options.
Vegas 7 on the same PC with SD PAL DV widescreen can handle straight cuts and an output to FW with the full/preview frame rate most of the time – with the occaisional dropped frames. A simple dissolve drops the frame rate to 18 fps, add a colour correction and the frame rate drops to 15 fps. It is totally inefficient for any commercial video operation to be rendering such basic tasks. Whilst a faster system will improve, its not going to come any where near the performance of a combined hardware/software solution.
When it comes to HD with vegas, it just gets worse and even with the latest spec and fastest PC currently available – I suspect dropped frames and long renders will still come into play.
Whilst Vegas in its 7th carnation has decent functionality, its RT performance and lack of hardware acceleration options are saddly lacking. Am I missing something here? Is it the learning curve of moving to another NLE or the cost of changing why Vegas still has a loyal following of seamingly pro users?
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if you mean a SD project (PAL 720×576 Widescreen) that doesnt give a solid 25 frame rate with HDCAM HD 35mbs VBR footage. 16 fps on preview/full with straight cuts and no fx
with firewire output – 11 fps and give unusual interlace effects on monitor.
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It is disappointing that a modest spec dual xeon machine with an Aja still struggles with the output.
I cannot understand why Vegas has such a following of users content with monitoring on small preview computer monitors or adaptive resolution and frame rates when so many competitor systems have hardware solutions to give full frame rate/ resolution output to an external monitor plus real time colour correction and other filters, transitions etc. Vegas was perhaps more useable with 4:3 DV but there has to be solutions to working more effectively with HD.
BTW – Ian, My XDCAM HD footage is the same – 35mb/s VBR
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Mark