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  • Sony XD-Cam .MOV’s Don’t Play Nice in Premiere Pro…?

    Posted by Todd Wiseman on May 4, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    Hi there. I’m working on transitioning our company off of Final Cut Pro 7 and onto Premiere Pro (6 when it’s out, but we currently run 4…). We shoot on two trusty Sony EX-1s and have for a few years or so, yielding a huge collection of 1080 30p XDcam clips as MOV’s (captured inside Final Cut Log and Transfer with the plug-in from Sony).

    My concern is that in my initial tests, these XD-Cam MOV’s are not running very well in an XDCam timeline inside Premiere Pro. I know that Premiere is expecting the BPAV folder with its MP4 file–and moving forward we will definitely be using this native workflow–but I’m certain we will be using plenty of catalogue B-Roll for at least the next year.

    Does anyone know why the XDCam MOV files run so poorly in Premiere Pro? It’s extremely stuttery on my 2.66 Ghz Quad Core Intel Tower with 8g ram–practically unwatchable and always requiring render.

    Can anyone provide a solution moving forward for us to mix native XDCam with our back log of XDCam MOV’s?

    We are in need of some serious advice in this department. Thanks!
    -Todd

    Mark Stuart replied 13 years, 11 months ago 9 Members · 16 Replies
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  • Chris Borjis

    May 4, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    could be your ram…you’ve got the bare minimum.

    I’ll grab some xdcam transferred and directly loaded .mp4 files
    and see what it does and report back.

  • Ron Pestes

    May 4, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    I am using a lot of EX .mov files on my PC and they work fine. 16 gig of RAM though and an i7 processor. Never had to render yet until export.

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  • Derek Andonian

    May 4, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    Chris Borjis “could be your ram…you’ve got the bare minimum.”

    Adding more ram isn’t going to help much though, until you upgrade to 6. 4 is still 32 bit, and can only use 4 gigs.

    ______________________________________________
    “THAT’S our fail-safe point. Up until here, we still have enough track to stop the locomotive before it plunges into the ravine… But after this windmill it’s the future or bust.”

  • Chris Borjis

    May 5, 2012 at 4:38 am

    [Greg Andonian] “Adding more ram isn’t going to help much though, until you upgrade to 6. 4 is still 32 bit, and can only use 4 gigs.”

    doh! forgot

  • Lance Bachelder

    May 5, 2012 at 6:21 am

    I just played with some native XDCAM 422 50Mbit clips on the PC side in CS6 and they run much faster/smoother than 5.5. These are native .mxf’s and not re-wrapped to .mov.

    Have not had a chance to try yet on Mac. I still think FCP7 in a better NLE than CS6. Even though it is an old 32bit app it’s just better software in my opinion and I don’t think I would force my facility to switch unless every Editor was 100% on board. Even with the new 3-way corrector in Premiere I’m still gonna have to run Colorista or Looks – the color tools are still sub-par and Speedgrade is just okay.

    Lance Bachelder
    Writer, Editor, Director
    Irvine, California

  • Derek Andonian

    May 5, 2012 at 7:48 am

    Lance Bachelder “Have not had a chance to try yet on Mac. I still think FCP7 in a better NLE than CS6. Even though it is an old 32bit app it’s just better software in my opinion and I don’t think I would force my facility to switch unless every Editor was 100% on board. Even with the new 3-way corrector in Premiere I’m still gonna have to run Colorista or Looks – the color tools are still sub-par and Speedgrade is just okay.”

    Out of curiosity, have you tried the new trim tools yet? What are your thoughts on those compared to FCP7?

    ______________________________________________
    “THAT’S our fail-safe point. Up until here, we still have enough track to stop the locomotive before it plunges into the ravine… But after this windmill it’s the future or bust.”

  • Lance Bachelder

    May 5, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    Yes new trim tools are nice and basic day to day editing in much improved in CS6. Trimming, bins thumbnails, responsiveness etc are way better than previous versions. Still stand by my FCP7 statement…not saying I can’t be proved wrong and hope I am 🙂

    Lance Bachelder
    Writer, Editor, Director
    Irvine, California

  • Eric Addison

    May 6, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    I think the problem is that those files are optimized for FCP. You could try using Calibrated{Q} XD Decode and see if that helps you with playback in Premiere Pro. I believe they have a free trial. https://calibratedsoftware.com/QXD.asp

    —Eric
    Owner | 100 ACRE FILMS
    https://www.100acrefilms.com

  • Darren Kelly

    May 7, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    I would bet the issue is

    1. Premiere Pro 4 wasn’t a native XDCAM software, so it doesn’t know how to handle the files. Remember you are running 3 major releases behind.

    2. You must be operating a 64bit system with lots of RAM. 8GB min, 16 better.

    3. Use the right video card. Most nvidea cards can be made to work, but to be safe, select a card they approve.

    I use a JVC HMU100, and it uses XDCAM files all the time. I just drag and drop the mp4’s into my bin, and start working.

    DBK

  • Todd Wiseman

    May 7, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    Thanks for your help.

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