[Mark Morache]

I recently listened to a podcast with the Polish brothers who shot an entire feature film in 12 days with a Canon 5d, and released it on itunes.

https://www.kcrw.com/etc/programs/tb/tb111031the_polish_bros_itun

It’s a whole new world.

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FCX. She tempts me, abuses me, beats me up, makes me feel worthless, then in the end she comes around, helps me get my work done, gives me hope and I can’t stop thinking about her.

Mark Morache
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Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
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[Mark Morache]

Clever workaround Tim!

I had this same problem with media going offline. I had opened the media in Premiere, and it altered the metadata. There is a preference in the Adobe apps to keep this from happening.

For me, I was lucky. I edit on my laptop with a firewire drive, but the computer I used to captured the tape still had a copy of the media, so I dragged that into the Original Media folder of my event, overwriting the aliases, and everything came back.

I’m going to try the compound clip in the event xml trick. It may save my ass someday.

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FCX. She tempts me, abuses me, beats me up, makes me feel worthless, then in the end she comes around, helps me get my work done, gives me hope and I can’t stop thinking about her.

Mark Morache
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Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
https://fcpx.wordpress.com

[Mark Morache]

I got into trouble awhile ago because I opened a master clip in timeline mode, applied the loudness modification to a couple of the tracks, put some markers on the master clip, then editing the altered master clip into my timeline. I watched my project size get exponentially larger with every edit.

When you make changes to a clip inside the timeline mode, I suspect that FCPX starts treating it like a sequence or a compound clip instead of a clip, and I imagine that multiplies the amount of data it requires to keep track of it.

I believe it’s better to put five clips in the timeline and apply an effect to them than to apply the effect inside the clip in timeline view before you start editing.

I have vowed never to do anything inside a master clip. I may open a master clip and set individual volumes to each audio track in the clip, but I’m leary of doing much more than that.

In FCP7 I can nest a sequence, chop it up and sprinkle it in my timeline, and when I change the original sequence, it changes every iteration of it in my timeline.

Is there anything like that in FCX?

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FCX. She tempts me, abuses me, beats me up, makes me feel worthless, then in the end she comes around, helps me get my work done, gives me hope and I can’t stop thinking about her.

Mark Morache
Avid/Xpri/FCP7/FCX
Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
https://fcpx.wordpress.com

[Mark Morache]

I’ve had problems with this “ghost audio”.

Try this: first expand all of your audio. In the menu View/Expand Audio Video Clips/For All.

This will let you make sure there isn’t some errant L-cut.

Then try solo-ing some clips around the problem area.

I was able to make my ghost audio go away by finding the errant clip and match-framing the first frame of the clip, then replacing the clip on the timeline with itself.

Let us know if you figure it out.

It’ll be better in 10.0.3.

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FCX. She tempts me, abuses me, beats me up, makes me feel worthless, then in the end she comes around, helps me get my work done, gives me hope and I can’t stop thinking about her.

Mark Morache
Avid/Xpri/FCP7/FCX
Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
https://fcpx.wordpress.com

[Mark Morache]

Hmmm… I think it was the “compatibility” issue.

When I selected to maximize compatibility when I saved from Photoshop, the problem seemed to go away.

Interesting.

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FCX. She tempts me, abuses me, beats me up, makes me feel worthless, then in the end she comes around, helps me get my work done, gives me hope and I can’t stop thinking about her.

Mark Morache
Avid/Xpri/FCP7/FCX
Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
https://fcpx.wordpress.com

[Mark Morache]

Thanks for the link.

I guess it makes some sense, that every iteration of a clip or compound clip is a separate entity, that can be modified separately.

This is perhaps a big difference between compound clips and nested clips from FCP7. In legacy Final Cut Pro, when you nested a sequence and used it more than once, you could modify the original sequence and the changes you make ripple down to all the clips already in the timeline.

That’s not the case here. Every time you cut a compound clip in to, it basically gives you a brand new version, and if you change one, the other does NOT follow.

I suppose there is a usefulness for something like that, but it seems to me that every time you cut a compound clip, both halves should refer to the same original clip, not a separate clone of the clip.

Again, in FCP7 if I want to duplicated a nested clip and make changes to the duplicate, I can do that. I don’t seem to have that sort of control in FCX.

Apple may need to rethink the compound clip paradigm.

For me, I want to see the compound clip show up in the event broswer, and make it so there is only one iteration of the compound clip that is referred to in the timeline, rather than cloning the entire thing each time you use it.

Right now, I mainly use compound clips either to keep my timeline clean by collapsing a large stack of clips, or I use it to combine a stacked effect if I want to apply a transition or clip effect on the entire bunch.

I really like X, but it has a long way to go.

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FCX. She tempts me, abuses me, beats me up, makes me feel worthless, then in the end she comes around, helps me get my work done, gives me hope and I can’t stop thinking about her.

Mark Morache
Avid/Xpri/FCP7/FCX
Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
https://fcpx.wordpress.com

[Mark Morache]

Rob…

Good detective work.

I only added five markers to each of my two clips, so even if each clip in my timeline had references to those 5 markers. A quick look at the xml reveals about 268 marker references in my timeline. Every time I cut a clip into two clips, it would have added 5 more markers. However, splitting a clip into two made the beachball come out for 10-15 seconds.

It’s interesting that my 98mb project created a 106kb xml file, and my 5mb project created a 45kb xml file. Hardly proportional.

I had also applied five different keywords to five non-overlapping sections of each clip. These are in the xml several times as well.

I didn’t read the entire thread you linked to, but you had placed a clip inside a compound clip and edited with that… I still wonder if that’s what’s making the project get so large. I suspect that by modifying my clip in timeline mode, FCX starts treating it like a compound clip, turning every clip in my timeline into a nested sequence, and making the project size abnormally huge.

I’d sure love to hear from Apple.

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FCX. She tempts me, abuses me, beats me up, makes me feel worthless, then in the end she comes around, helps me get my work done, gives me hope and I can’t stop thinking about her.

Mark Morache
Avid/Xpri/FCP7/FCX
Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
https://fcpx.wordpress.com

[Mark Morache]

Adam… I’m curious. Can you capture clips through quicktime 7?

You can open up quicktime 7, then select “edit/new movie recording”

Open quicktime preferences and under the recording tab, make sure the video source is set to the hdv vcr, quality should be “device native” and select where to save the files to.

If your mac can’t see the footage from the firewire in quicktime, I imagine that it’s a hardware issue between the deck and the cable.

Do you have FCP7? You might try that as well.

If Quicktime can bring the footage in but FCX can’t, at least you still have a way to ingest it. I don’t know if the timecode comes in with quicktime.

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FCX. She tempts me, abuses me, beats me up, makes me feel worthless, then in the end she comes around, helps me get my work done, gives me hope and I can’t stop thinking about her.

Mark Morache
Avid/Xpri/FCP7/FCX
Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
https://fcpx.wordpress.com

[Mark Morache]

Bill… I’m only affecting the audio of the master clips. I adjusted the level of two of the audio channels, and I applied the “loudness” enhancement to the other two, basically adding an audio compressor.

FCPX boasts about its ability to analyze and fix things. I can’t imagine it would be a big problem to apply these to the clip in the event browser.

I wonder if my problem came because I opened the clips in timeline view and applied the effect to the clip “underneath the hood” so to speak.

I wonder how FCX handles this.

Follow this and see if you think this might be what happens: When I import my clip, it treats the media just like any other clip that references the media on your hard drive. When I right-click the clip in the event browser, open it up in the timeline view, and modify the audio inside, then perhaps it starts considering the clip a compound clip instead of the original clip.

In FCX, we can open up a clip in timeline view, and actually make edits inside the clip. Now it’s no longer a clip, but it acts like a compound clip.

This is different from applying a level adjustment or an audio enhancement or even a color correction to the “outside” of the clip in the event browser.

I’ll do an experiment sometime, and try this. Meanwhile I need to get my editing done, so I painstakingly made notes for my three dozen edits, and imported my two clips fresh, and recreated my timeline.

My project file has gone from 90mb, down to 5. This should edit much more quickly!

I think perhaps the warning might be that we shouldn’t take a clip in the event browser, open it in timeline view and modify it inside. If anyone else can verify this, I’d be interested in hearing from you.

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FCX. She tempts me, abuses me, beats me up, makes me feel worthless, then in the end she comes around, helps me get my work done, gives me hope and I can’t stop thinking about her.

Mark Morache
Avid/Xpri/FCP7/FCX
Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
https://fcpx.wordpress.com

[Mark Morache]

I’ve got FCP7, and Premiere 5.5 on my laptop, but I keep going back to X. I imagine I’d jump back to FCP7 if I had a multicamera project, but I’ve actually edited a number of simple 2 camera interviews quite easily using the synchronize function. It worked quite well.

I haven’t missed the second monitor.

If I have more than one clip stacked in the timeline, I can easily find the right frame by scrubbing with the T tool, or the B tool. This lets me quite easily see what’s going on in each camera with the skimmer. Try it. It works quite well.

I still have a large list of things I want to see, but I’ve been seduced by it’s power, and early next year we’ll have multicam and external monitor support. I can still edit on FCP7 anytime I need, but haven’t needed to for several months.

Life is good.

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FCX. She tempts me, abuses me, beats me up, makes me feel worthless, then in the end she comes around, helps me get my work done, gives me hope and I can’t stop thinking about her.

Mark Morache
Avid/Xpri/FCP7/FCX
Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
https://fcpx.wordpress.com