Hey Scott,
I noticed that you didn’t vote..?
So far we have only got Lisa’s story, so everything else is pure speculation.
But here is an opinion:
I do freelance from time to time and I do understand the concept of desperate and hard times. I’ve never said that anyone owns any client, I’ve merely pointed out the ethical way of how one should be doing business with ones current clients. And according to Lisa, she did not fire her client before accepting her client’s client. She didn’t even discuss it – that shows intent. But it is true to say that her “old friend” has got no legal claim on the client.
But Scott, as a professional freelancer: Would you ever work the same hours at the same rate that Lisa (and her producer) did? Because that is what has become central to this whole discussion.
Lisa feels that her actions is OK, because in effect Lisa did not ask for proper money in the first place. Question is whether Lisa had ever worked for PBS before? We know that is a no.
And whether without her friend’s help, we don’t know if she would ever had had the chance to work for PBS or how long it would have taken her to get through that door?
What we do know is that Lisa is not a loyal freelancer, and to support her claim she is quite happy to go through other peoples private notes, including publishing them – whether the producer forgot them, is not an excuse to do such a bad thing – because in the end as I understand it, Lisa did get paid the rate she agreed to do the job for.
If not or if the hours was out or what-ever, Lisa could have re-negotiated for a better rate or walked away – but she didn’t. So no, Lisa has only got herself to blame. And two wrongs, certainly don’t make a right.
Before offering the same low rates to PBS I think that Lisa should read the https://magazine.creativecow.net/article/clients-or-grinders-understanding-the-three-market-types article. Because there will always be a hungry freelancer around the corner ready to take her slot.
Anyway, I’ll get off my high horse now. However, what I do find interesting about this, is the discussion of ethics and ethical behaviour. In the UK we have new, and tougher than the US, laws coming into force in May (Anti-Bribery Act). Some people call it a crusade for the West to be righteous; due to the simple fact that we within the next 10 years won’t be able to compete on innovation, manufacturing, population, growth etc., but Ethical Behaviour is something that we in the West can always win on. (That was an attempt to include sarcasm, before anyone gets going)
Never the less, a UK based CEO will from 1st of May be liable for something that an employee did wrong in another country half way around the globe, even if that was to “offer a packet of cigarettes”. So there is on our side of the pond a lot of evaluations going on about how one as a person and a company behaves ethically. I shall be the first to put my hand up and say that I don’t always get it right, but I’m happy to amend my ways and I always learn from my mistakes. But we are facing a new world order, and that not only includes treatment of freelancers and contractors, but also how they behave.
Interesting times ahead – but please do vote above on my question in the previous post. I’m very interested in discussing it either in the forum or off-line.
my 1p…
All the Best
Mads
London, UK
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