[Mads Nybo jørgensen]

Hey Chris,

[Chris Blair] ” If something is taken off a website or a page is taken down or the links to the page are removed, as the search engines crawl the site, it will re-index the content.”

Yes, that is true, but it would ignorant to think that this would be the end of the matter. I’ve just done a test on a story that I dealt with in July last year where a big UK paper printed some unnecessary and personal details about a junior colleague. They did amend the story by removing the explicit details, but on Google search this morning, carrying the original text there is still 5 other aggregate websites ranked in the top 10.

As a side comment, despite the said newspaper being very big on human rights and doing the right thing (think Wikileaks publications), their legal department didn’t feel that should apologise for the harm that they caused – we choose not to pursue it, because the concerns was for the individual person and that exposing the story would create a bigger problem for that person.

As I stated in the previous post, we don’t know the specifics of Rob’s story but there is a number of tools that can be used to reduce the effect of that web-page. Such as good CV, holding down a job and getting personal introductions to new jobs – these are all off-line, but has worked since the dawn of time. If he does find that he has made a loss as a result of the publication, then only a lawyer can redress that.

In regards to the online world, I’m of the opinion that the Google algorithms are programmed in such a way, that even if you delete the page it will still be cached (the small blue word at the end of the URL on your searches) for as long as someone searches on a string of words that brings that page into the top 10 or 20. Remember, that string doesn’t even have to contain the name, it could as an example be “police false arrest ridiculous nude robbery water pistol & bull whip” – and you’ll never fall of the searches 🙂

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[Mads Nybo jørgensen]

Hey Steven,

Are you mis-representing them or mis-using the product?

If so, be happy that you didn’t shoot the sequence in Times Square (That was a bad attempt on me making a joke). Never the less, logos appears all the time, hence why they are printed in the first place, and as long as you’re not breaking any laws, you should be OK.

Seriously, why not just ask the companies in question?
They might even want to have an infomercial for their products in the video = more dollars + solves problem of painting tippex on all the frames…

Bottom line; consult a lawyer before getting further into a twist over this.

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[Mads Nybo jørgensen]

Hey Steven,

Why do you actually want to remove the logos? Could you not get the companies to pay you money for being in the shot?

Otherwise, the very best forum for Logo removal is right here: https://forums.creativecow.net/imagineer – if you can’t do it yourself, I’m sure that they can find someone to do it.

You could also try the job forum and offer it out.

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[Mads Nybo jørgensen]

Hey Rob,

You should also try and post this on the COW’s Social Media forum.

Without knowing the specifics of the case it is difficult to give advice, so this is suggestive only. Once something is on the net, it normally stays on the net. So even if the publisher was to remove the story, it will still be stored on Google servers and elsewhere. If his name comes up top, I imagine that he has a fairly unique name?

However, he should try and get the newspaper to make a follow up on the story about charges being dropped. Alternatively get a lawyer to look over the story and see if he can address the issue of compensation from the publisher and also whoever released his name to the media in the first instance?

Don’t know what your friend does for a job, but he should get himself any job that he can get for now and build up a good reference over say a minimum period of 6 months – I think that most employers will take that more into account, rather than internet hear-say.

In regards to your question of position on the search: Blog, Twitter, flickr, Creative Cow, Nice Facebook page and a LinkedIn profile with loads of contacts. Anything that can get him up in the rankings. Even his own website will do well. It is all about squeezing the “bad” story down to page 4 on Google. Unfortunately, if someone searches for “his name + crime” then he might still be done for – unless he tags all his posts with the word “crime” – which might just have the same undesired effect.

Bottom line is that if he has a good CV, with good references and build up a good network, then he’ll always find a job. But the Net is like nature, you’ll never be able to control it, but you can harness its power for something positive.

My 5 pence 🙂

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[Mads Nybo jørgensen]

Bruce and Mark is right, if you’ve got the sole access to the contributors/sources then the idea is yours to exploit. One way of doing it is to get the contributor to sign a release form.

Certain broadcasters won’t accept the programme as a documentary if the subject has been paid for it, so be very careful about offering money. Expert opinions is a different matter.

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[Mads Nybo jørgensen]

Hey Steven,

[Steven Cambria] ” I will probably try to get some sort of copy and then tell him that I give no permission for him to use my likeness”

Just to clarify; I think that you were meant to say that “you’ll get a copy and usage of the rushes in return for the director to be allowed to use a mutually agreed cut of the film” – this I think will work best for both parties…

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[Mads Nybo jørgensen]

Hey Steven,

I would negotiate access if I was you, based on allowing the “Director” a say in how you use it.

Alternatively, I would tell the director “that him holding on to the rushes is not in the spirit of the project” and ask for the video to be removed from public use and for him to undertake not to use it any further – that should get you back to negotiating access.

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[Mads Nybo jørgensen]

Hey Rene,

Agents can work on a percentage point – normally it is about 30% + their expenses, so it is in their interest to get you the best price for the footage. It is wrong to consider this as being an expensive way of selling footage.

You need to consider how big the story is and if the broadcaster is going to syndicate the story? Again, back to the agent.

Another way of doing it is to make an exclusive deal with the bigger broadcaster and get them to guarantee a set amount of business per year in your local area – i.e. become a stringer/agency on a retainer. Obviously this will give you less money when the big story breaks.

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[Mads Nybo jørgensen]

Hey Bill,

Stealing copyright from a I/P lawyer is never a good thing to do 😉

There are plenty of affordable books on film production at Amazon and others that will give you a sample contract. Just make sure that it covers your jurisdiction, so in any case paa it through a lawyer, or it might not be worth the paper it is printed on.

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[Mads Nybo jørgensen]

Hey Rene,

I you have exclusive footage, yes than you should charge for it. Unless it is more the station doing you a favour showing it, than it is them wanting it.

Cost of footage is really dependant on what it is, how big the audience is, but often you can also work from how much it would have cost the station to make it themselves – if for example it would have required them to put a crew on the ground.

More important than the issue of money is copyrights. Even when you in the past have given footage to the station(s) you should have secured some kind of agreement for them not to share it or sell it on + also set a time limit on for how long they are allowed to use it. This could normally be anything from 1 day to 3 years. Such agreement should also include any video stream/download the broadcaster may have on the internet.

The best advice is for you to get a footage agent on board, there are plenty of those around. And as much as they’ll charge you a lot of money on each sale, then a good one is worth their fees.

Alternative is obviously you doing it yourself using your costs of filming + duplication/encoding of copy for broadcaster + profit = your price for the footage.

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