[László Kovács]

Hi,
To me at the first reading it seems that the phone is messing with the framerate.
Look for Wayne Waags posts in this forum, he had some very good explanation on similar topic, that was something about iPhone recordings. I’m not concerned so didn’t dig into it much.
But hopefully Waynes posts may be in help for you.

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László Kovács

[László Kovács]

Adobe has a good name, that’s sure.
If you don’t like Premiere that does not mean it’s not good at all.
It only means it is not good for you.
There are scissors for right handed people: ask a left handed, how much he/she likes it to use :))))
But there are scissors for left handed people as well.
We are here the left handed people with Vegas, and we simply can’t work with the scissors made for right handed people (Premiere?).
I don’t know, if you tell your client, why do you tell what NLE you are using?
Don’t tell them. If one of them asks what NLE you use, just ask back why is it important?
You’ll see if the client has a valid reason to know your NLE, if not, don’t tell.
When they describe the project and what they expect to be done, you’ll know whether you can do it, no matter if with Vegas or FCPX.
I used to somehow feel if the task is over my capabilities and I can’t take the job.
And I tell this fact only: I can take the job, or I can not do it.

Good luck, take care! 😉

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László Kovács

[László Kovács]

Hi,

In my honest opinion:
If the client is overspecific, and wants to say what and where and when and how to do, because he/she thinks it’s the best way, let him/her go.
You have trouble at the start (they don’t like your tool), you’ll have trouble all the way until the project is finished.
And I bet, you’ll have trouble at payment too.
They want to push you to use a tool (in this case Adobe) you hate to use.
Trouble, trouble, and trouble.
That kills your creativity, hurts your mooth, takes time from other projects you could work on happily.
Let that trouble to anyone else who likes to have it ?

If you already have made an agreement, and you also have put some work in that project, just stick to the agreement, and keep on working as you like to. The way you like to work has the reason why you like it to do so: because your pruductivity is at the maximum that way.
You could also argue a bit if you wish:
OK, I can do it the way they want, but will take the double time at double cost. (Or triple :))) Still want that way?

I really never-ever give raw material, footage, nor project file to a client, unless the the type of work is something like I described in my last post, where the end result of my work is the footage itself.
Clients don’t see what/how I do, they see only the end result.

And lastly, the client can have a valid good reason why he/she needs something to do in a specific NLE. In that case the job is probably really not for you or me 😉

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László Kovács

[László Kovács]

Hi,

And don’t do they tell you with what kind of car you have to travel to an events place, and what kind of camera you have to use? If they are way too overspecific, they simply don’t want to hire you for that job, and if you had Adobe, they would find another reason…

The half of my work is just delivering the raw material. This includes recording something and giving the footage to someone who will edit (I don’t care what tool with), and also some broadcasting stuff (usually sport events) where I am just one of the many cameras.
In the rest I do everything on my own, and no one cares what software do I work with, and I think this is the normal attitude.
I do the same, for example I pay for the bricklayer, when the wall is standing, and it’s strong enough, and really don’t care what tools he uses. This is usually true for videographers too, I think. Shoot, import, edit, deliver the content in a format the client needs.
Likely, Graham hit the nail on its head.

I can imagine the only one reason your client can specify what NLE you have to use:
if that client wants a contract, so that you shoot, import, edit, deliver the content, but they also want to have the project with the footages, because they want to able to add additional edits later, without involving you.
Other than that, the client has nothing to do with your NLE (I think).
😉

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László Kovács

[László Kovács]

2 cameras… never would have tought on that :))))

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László Kovács

[László Kovács]

Hi,

[Graham Bernard] “That didn’t indicate “Motion”?”
[Dale Estes] “… if it was a still image …
If it ‘s not a still image, isn’t it a motion picture then?
But you’re right, I should have written : “I think”.
I apologise.

Nice idea with the masks!!!
But how long trail would that draw using Vegas motion blur?
Now I’m thinking about rendering the bike-pass event as series of PNG’s.
All that tweaked, so basically all frames show just the lights.
So say, Frame[0] is complete black, Frame[1] is the first frame of the event, where the lights are only visible.
Then Frame[N] is the last frame, where the bike already passed.
Cumulate these, so:
Frame[1] = Frame[0] + Frame[1]; //which is equeal to Frame[1] because Frame[0] doesn’t add anything being completely black.
Frame[2] = Frame[1] + Frame[2];
Frame[3] = Frame[2] //which is already 2+1// + Frame[3];
and so on.
Frame[N] = Frame[N] + Frame[N-1].
So at the end Frame[N] cumulates all the previous frames from 1..N; so the trail is drawn ?
Maybe Photoshop can be automated to do this (via batch processing), then import back those frames to Vegas, and use those as masking the solid color layer???

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László Kovács

[László Kovács]

[Graham Bernard] “Study the way the effect vanishes behind trees. In Post?”

I woke up this morning and checked the forum. Since that I find me time to time thinking about how this could be done, how I would do if I had to… :)))
The lights on the wheels were real LED lights, that’s sure. This is the whole video is about.
But what the OP is asking, is that kind of motion trail those lights draw.
The best I thought would work until now is that freeze frame every frame of the video where the bike passes.
Darken it, so that it becomes black, only the lights on the wheels remain visible.
And add it above the original video with “ADD” compositing mode.
For this I’d need so many tracks, how many frames the event has.
Huge lot of “manual” work, but I feel it’s doable. However, I’m sure there are other methods…
So if someone knows how to properly do a motion trailing in Vegas, knows the answer for this problem.
A special effect somewhere, Boris, Newblue packs maybe? (I don’t use these, so I don’t know).
But am still thinking…. 😉

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László Kovács

[László Kovács]

[Red-Rob Rothkopf] “Would love Magix to add this… or one of the 3rd party developers…. ;-)”

Vegasaur is already capable to do this 🙂

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László Kovács

[László Kovács]

Hi,

Is GPU support enabled in Vegas13?
If yes, that may be the culprit, Vegas 13 is very buggy with GPU enabled.
You can try to upgrade your videocard driver, or even downgrade few versions.
That may help, but nut sure.
If it does not help, try to disable GPU.

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László Kovács

[László Kovács]

Your very welcome ?
Also note, Mark gave basically a very similar suggestion.
Anyway, nice to see here someone else from Hungary.
I felt so alone… :)))

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László Kovács