Jonathan Wing
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You might not be familiar with AE but it’s a very easy job in AE and it would be more elegant/smooth looking. A couple free online AE basic tutorials would teach you all you need to know how to do this… would be less headache in the end, IMHO.
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It shouldn’t present any problems. I work with nests all the time especially for complicated sequences such as that, or sometimes long-form projects where you want to work on separate scenes in their own sequence and them piece them together later on, using nests.
The one caveat is for going online, if you are working with transcodes. Nests are a little annoying for the process of re-linking to raw footage for color/finishing. It would be nice if Adobe would add a feature where we could right-click on a nest and “decompose” the nest right on the timeline, as needed, which could also be helpful for a whole slew of other reasons.
But generally speaking, to answer your question: performance wise, working with nests is totally fine.
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I don’t know, I have the most recent version and it happens to me every now and again. It happened to me just now which is why I’m here. I found that Tommy’s suggestion in this thread helped: https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/3/965152#966099 … simply to close the sequence you have open and re-open it. Annoying, but it works. Hopefully Adobe will figure this bug out…
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This issue is so annoying but thank you Tommy, that tip definitely works in the meantime!
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I will add to the growing list that this has been driving me crazy as well. I personally have only noticed it with a dual monitor setup, but yes, when I move my cursor away from the timeline it starts to autoscroll. Especially annoying when what I’m actually trying to do is grab an effect to apply to a clip—all of a sudden I lose my place on my timeline as to where the clip is. Unacceptable! Hope Adobe gets this bug figured out in the next release…
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I agree with what others said. All in all I would say there aren’t really hard and fast rules. Yes, it is exciting and a generally normal technique to cut to the beat; sometimes a big change happens in the song that calls for it. And of course it does depend on the genre of music and the style of video.
But in my opinion, some of my favorite videos do not over cut to the beat at all. It gets to be a little expected/cliché/obvious, especially when you over do it (like for example, cutting on every single kick drum or snare in a dance song that is 4/4 gets tiring really fast, unless the concept necessitates it). For example, this highly conceptual video relies on cutting on every beat and using repetition to get its point across, which uses visual elements as rhythmic elements: Tiga – “Bugatti” Which in this case, cutting on the beat makes sense. It IS the language of the video and what makes it work.
But it wouldn’t make sense for many other video concepts out there. I think a lot of time it requires a bit of intuition, and understanding that sometimes restraint is better—just because there is a beat to cut to, doesn’t mean it’s always the right time to cut.
Also important to keep in mind, is that when you do cut to the beat, it’s sometimes more interesting to not make it about the actual edit point but more about the action in the shot. For example, if I were to use a shot of a volcano exploding coming in on a beat, it might be more interesting to make the explosion itself what we see on the beat, and not cut to the shot right on the beat. In other words, this means you might consider coming in on the shot half a second or more before the beat and before the explosion occurs for example, thus establishing the scene, adding a sense of suspense, and then a surprising relief when we see the explosion paired with a a huge beat or big moment in the song.
A good example of a video that doesn’t always cut to the beat, but does in surprising places (thus making the moments more effective) is this one: Alt-J – “Every Other Freckle” Note how it lingers on slow-motion long takes but intercuts the occasional quick shot to punctuate a moment, which is very musical: for example at 0:52, 1:18 (dog bark, which is a good example of what I meant about the volcano example above; note that the bark is the action matching the rhythm, but they cut to the dog early to establish it), etc. They often cut to the beat in this video, but there is no rule how long, there is no rule for cutting on the one or the four, the upbeat or downbeat, etc. In my opinion this approach can make for a more musical edit because it allows for moments to breathe and surprise without making the viewer assume there will be a new shot coming at them on every downbeat, for example.
And then of course there are some even more conceptual videos that require a bit more planning in production to allow for long-takes, roving camera techniques, etc. In this case, sometimes it’s nice to barely edit on the beat at all, such as seen in this weird video: Glass Animals – “Gooey” Yet somehow it still comes off as very musical! I think part of this is because rather than cutting to the beat with each edit point, they let subtle things occuring in the shots match the music, like the little water droplets landing on the snare after a slow take.
I do a lot of music video editing and these are just a few of the things I’ve observed and learned over the years. I hope that helps you think of different ways of looking at it. Good luck!
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Yes, I am aware of this feature for moving up one track or only a few tracks as needed, but I’m working with a large camera sequence with sometimes 30 tracks so moving a clip from V1 to V20 up one track at a time gets tedious using that way. Would be nice to be able to drag and release quickly. Oh well, I’ll put in for a small feature request.
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Just to be clear what we’re talking about here, Michael– it seems like you want to select independent tracks together with other independent tracks, say for example A1 and A5 and A7, etc, and not others.
Or do you just want to select any one of those on its own, because in that case Robert is right: when you hold down shift you should be getting a single arrow that lets you select independent tracks. You just can’t add them up together with others. -
Hmm. You’re refering to the track select tool and as far as I know it only works on either all tracks or single tracks, but can’t be added up. I wish it could because I’ve run into the same need myself before. Perhaps it should be a feature request?
What I have noticed though is that if you group your clips together, you can hold shift+cmd click and it will select all tracks forward that are grouped together, so that may be the workaround…
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I’m not sure if this is in line with your issue, but I’ve noticed a similar problem occur with any kind of clips in the source monitor, titles as well as regular footage. Sometimes insert/overwrite functions just don’t work, and then I have to close the sequence or sometimes restart premiere altogether to get it work again. So I’m guessing it’s a bug…