[Jill Simpson]

Do these 2 programs do what we want? (applying multiple cuts, and saving the edited video without rendering)

SolveigMM Video Splitter
As seen in this picture: https://www.videohelp.com/forum/images/guides/283241/vs_fr.jpg

VirtualDubMod / Virtual Dub Mod.
“You can cut out as many parts as you want in one go using mark in and mark out, delete.” Set both audio AND video to ‘Direct Stream Copy’ and the edited video will be produced instantly, with no rendering.

[Jill Simpson]

What an Opportunity! (for someone with the right skills)

I continue to be astounded that there is no software in which I can make multiple cuts to a video and save the edited version without re-rendering it.

Do you know why tsMuxeR (and/or AviDemux) do not support multiple edits?

(I’ve been wondering this for years – this is the first time I’ve asked.)

[Jill Simpson]

Thanks Stephen, Aleksey and Tyson,

I found markers are being saved to AVIs’ SFKs, but not to MP4s’ SFKs.
Markers are also being saved to MP3s’ SFKs.

Tyson,
that’s a decent work-around. i’m hoping after formatting my hard drive and re-installing windows and vegas etc, the trimmer will work as it previously did. If not, i will make use of your suggestion. Thanks.

Aleksey,
Thanks for alerting me that Vegasaur does not work on mp4s, mp3s, etc. That’s disappointing, but good to know.

Anyone know what the difference is between SFKs and SFLs?
I thought SFKs contained wave form graphs, and SFLs contained metadata like markers and regions, but I find mp3s and avis that have only SFKs retain their markers and regions, so it seems that metadata is stored in the SFKs. So: when does Vegas make SFLs?

[Jill Simpson]

1. Do you happen to know if tsMuxeR allows multiple edits?
To my surprise, AviDemux seems to only allow one in and out point for trimming / splitting / cutting. If I want to keep 10 clips from a file, joined together, I would need to trim a clip, save as…, re-open the original, then repeat x 9, and finally, join the files together.

2. Why can’t Vegas do this?
If AviDemux and tsMuxeR can split and join files, producing new video files without re-rendering, why can’t Vegas?

Thank you.

[Jill Simpson]

“Solution”:

My computer is > 3 years old and has never had a fresh re-install, ~so it’s getting buggy. Rather than have it crash, and lose the 6 hours of work, I spent 1 hour manually promoting the media markers one by one (including their names). (On the timeline, the markers and regions appear within the event, I moved over them, and added the appropriate marker.)

After I format my hard drive and re-install everything necessary, I will use Vegasaur’s Demote Markers to embed the markers and regions in the media files.

[Jill Simpson]

Thanks to Stephen for proposing a possible solution.

I just tried it – alas it verified my fears. All the markers and regions are absent from all the media files that comprise the project.

If the Edit Details window would show regions and markers from the Trimmer, instead of only showing regions and markers (and events, etc) from the Timeline, I could copy and paste details from the Edit Details window into a spreadsheet. (I’d need to do that for each media file but … I’m willing.)

[Jill Simpson]

This was working – until perhaps a month ago.

[Jill Simpson]

Thank you! Excellent!
I don’t know why it’s not possible within Vegas, but I’m glad people supplement Vegas with toolkits like Vegasaur.

[Jill Simpson]

Aleksey: That does not answer my question.

I wrote:

sometimes I want to see those annotations in tabular format, specifically in the “Edit Details” window

I want the Edit Details window to display markers and regions from the trimmer, not just from the timeline.

I also wrote:

P.S. I know I could use Promote Media Markers – after placing the file in the timeline – to bring the media markers into the timeline, so the would appear in Edit Details, but my timeline generally contains clips from many files and annotations relevant to the project itself. I don’t want to clutter the timeline with all the media markers from a file, and then another file, etc.. I want to see media marker details via “edit details”.

If you know of a solution for that – or know why no solution can ever exist – that would be great.

Thanks.

[Jill Simpson]

Per Murray’s question, Why would I use beats, measures, etc?
I’m making videos to help people learn choreography. Ultimately I want them to be dancing to the music, not to counts, but if a section of the dance and/or music is complicated and unusual, it helps if they can clearly correlate music, moves and counts. I also give that information in a spreadsheet, and I can do voiceovers, but it helps if they have a visual reference within the video.

Any coders/scripters care to make this possible?
(timecode watermark: Measures and Beats)

Thanks.