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6 hours of work will be lost – Promote Media Markers script stopped working
Previously, it worked. Now it doesn’t.
I used Promote Media Markers as a better-than-nothing work-around to my original problem: the markers and regions I added in the trimmer are not saving to the files, as reported yesterday in:
Trimmer – Markers & Regions – NOT SAVING despite Saving
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/24/947743#947764Now I find Promote Media Markers isn’t working either.
In the Trimmer, I made 6-hours’ worth of annotations to media files – they are not saving. When I close Vegas, they will be lost. (I discovered and repeated and verified this in other instances of Vegas – other Vegas windows I had open. I also checked the media files and see their last modified date is old, i.e. the changes were not saved.)
Can you think of any work-around / solution?
Can you think of anything I should check to see what is wrong with my computer?
Thank you for trying.
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I never used the trimmer, so I am only guessing.
Do a save-as to a new filename, then open that new veg file in another instance of Vegas.Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
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Thanks to Stephen for proposing a possible solution.
I just tried it – alas it verified my fears. All the markers and regions are absent from all the media files that comprise the project.
If the Edit Details window would show regions and markers from the Trimmer, instead of only showing regions and markers (and events, etc) from the Timeline, I could copy and paste details from the Edit Details window into a spreadsheet. (I’d need to do that for each media file but … I’m willing.)
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“Solution”:
My computer is > 3 years old and has never had a fresh re-install, ~so it’s getting buggy. Rather than have it crash, and lose the 6 hours of work, I spent 1 hour manually promoting the media markers one by one (including their names). (On the timeline, the markers and regions appear within the event, I moved over them, and added the appropriate marker.)
After I format my hard drive and re-install everything necessary, I will use Vegasaur’s Demote Markers to embed the markers and regions in the media files.
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“in the media files” is not right. Vegas does not touch the media files. It is a completely non-destructive editor. All markers and other metadata are stored in the .sfk and .sfl files, and all editing instructions are in the .veg file. You can safely delete the .sfk and .sfl files after you close the project and Vegas will re-build them, but it needs these files in order to operate properly.
Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
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Note that Demote Markers function does not support MP4, WMV, WMA, AA3, FLAC and MP3 file formats (from the help)
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> “All markers and other metadata are stored in the .sfk and .sfl files”
In most cases this is true, but there are file formats (eg. mp4, mp3, wmv) that store media markers as metadata inside the media file.
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[Aleksey Tarasov] “In most cases this is true, but there are file formats (eg. mp4, mp3, wmv) that store media markers as metadata inside the media file.”
But, Vegas does not write metadata to the media file. Vegas does not touch the media.
Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
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If you want to see Markers on the clip(s) in the Track window, you could use Vegas’ parent-child projects to add your markers.
1. Put the clip into a .veg and add markers. E.g., M.1a, M.1b, M.2a, M.2b, etc. where “a through b” is a region you want to use.
2. Nest the .veg from (1) into your parent .veg
3. Add the .veg to the timeline. Trim it (e.g., M.1a to M.1b, M.2a to M.2b, etc.). The Marker names will be visible on the clip in the Track window.
Essentially, you’re using a .veg as your trimmer. Note that since the markers are independent of the clip, they will be wrong if that clip gets edited.
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Thanks Stephen, Aleksey and Tyson,
I found markers are being saved to AVIs’ SFKs, but not to MP4s’ SFKs.
Markers are also being saved to MP3s’ SFKs.Tyson,
that’s a decent work-around. i’m hoping after formatting my hard drive and re-installing windows and vegas etc, the trimmer will work as it previously did. If not, i will make use of your suggestion. Thanks.Aleksey,
Thanks for alerting me that Vegasaur does not work on mp4s, mp3s, etc. That’s disappointing, but good to know.Anyone know what the difference is between SFKs and SFLs?
I thought SFKs contained wave form graphs, and SFLs contained metadata like markers and regions, but I find mp3s and avis that have only SFKs retain their markers and regions, so it seems that metadata is stored in the SFKs. So: when does Vegas make SFLs? -
> “when does Vegas make SFLs?”
Read here
quote: “If the selected file type cannot save the markers internally, Vegas Pro will save the metadata to an external file with an .sfl extension”
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