Jamie Franklin
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Looks exactly like imovie to me…
Have you done a Red workflow in Adobe from offline to grade? And where did you go for the grade if so…?
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Fair enough. Trouble is, sure it can do more things than imovie, but it sure can’t do *a lot* of things Final Cut 7 could, and we’re now in territory where our choices aren’t as fruitful and Apple has dismissed 54% of their market share. Poof.
No “pro”, by any standard, in their right mind, would use this program in a post facility other than for curiosity, transcoding and “hope”…
Or someone in their family might want a wedding video done, and here we have the new “pro” user Apple is targetting. Nothing wrong with that what-so-ever…but, well…yeah /sigh
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[Tangier Clarke] “The biggest issue I have really is people complaining as if we all have the same understanding of what it means to be “Pro” which is very subjective both technically and creatively. Non-“pro” folks have created amazing storytelling on non-“pro” hardware and software. It’s easy to say what is and isn’t “pro looking back, but no so easy looking forward; especially when companies like Red, Apple, etc. try to change, redefine, or broaden the “pro” space.”
you think the pro/non-pro debate here is a philosophical one?
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Good grief.
Not comparable at all. And one could write a novel why…
[D.J. Goller] “Try to innovate with a great idea and completely under-deliver at first”
How can anyone say this with a straight face…truely grasping at straws…
People’s gripes here are completely legitimate and not one inch should be given to Apple for clearly ignoring 54% of the market that used their platform as a pro app and were promised to get one while pulling the rug out from those waiting to transition.
I have a lot of issues with the first generation Red…but this is nothing, not even in the same ballpark as what Apple has done…
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[Douglas K. Dempsey] “Calling that observation “negative” or saying “migration is not a priority” is a reasonable statement are simply selfish, ignorant statements.”
The apologists have their work cut out from them, yet I’m amazed at the work they are putting into it and insults getting tossed around as if these issues are crocodile tears…
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[Craig Seeman] “What you missed was the letter in which FCPX broke up with FCP. FCPX found AV Foundation and moved to a much more technically advanced civilization in a much more productive galaxy.”
/Sigh…denial is the first stage…
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[Chris Kenny] “Yes, but files weren’t backwards compatible. Which means that facilities that chose to stay on FCS2 — which quite a few did — had to be able to get copies of it despite it not being available direct from Apple anymore. If getting discontinued versions wasn’t a serious problem then, why would it be now?”
It was where I worked then. That wasted a lot of man hours for such a dodgy thing *forcing* us to upgrade and shelving projects until we got our systems running…I’m not saying my experience was everyone’s so I can only speak for myself on that…bygones
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Just curious, why not Adobe?
It’s pretty solid. Some minor quibbles here and there…or what can’t it do for you, should be my question…?
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[David Bankston] ” I never get touched by Apple in any unique way.”
Don’t give them ideas!
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[Chris Kenny] ” So if those customers managed to remain FCS2 shops for 18 months after FCS3 was the only thing on Apple’s shelves, I don’t see why they won’t be able to do the same with FCS3 and FCP X.”
You have me scratching my head here. FCS3 was a pretty soft “update”…this is not. And I think the way this was delivered gives everyone enough reason to doubt it’s future. Drama justified. That aside, we have been clamoring for Final Cut to keep pace with other platforms and not reinvent the wheel while we wait for it to be viable for a true post workflow. “Some day”…
I just feel the pushback is warranted. The pushback to the pushback seems fairly shallow and assumes things none of us know on Apples behalf who are quite, understandably at this point, silent…