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  • Email Exchange with Randy Ubillos, FCP X Designer

  • Chris Messineo

    June 23, 2011 at 2:59 am

    I email Randy Ubillos, the designer of FCP X, and asked about support for migrating FCP 7 projects to FCP X. Here is his word-for-word response:

    “FCP7 projects do not have enough information in them to properly translate to FCPX (in FCP7 all of the clip connections live in the editor’s head, not in the timeline). We never expected anyone to switch editing software in the middle of a project, so project migration was not a priority.

    Final Cut Pro X 1.0 is the beginning of a road, not the end.”

  • Chris Kenny

    June 23, 2011 at 3:05 am

    [Chris Messineo] “”FCP7 projects do not have enough information in them to properly translate to FCPX (in FCP7 all of the clip connections live in the editor’s head, not in the timeline). We never expected anyone to switch editing software in the middle of a project, so project migration was not a priority.”

    This is a valid point. I think Apple could import FCP 7 projects by converting each track to a storyline, but the resulting FCP X sequences wouldn’t be organized at all the way a competent FCP X editor would organize a sequence. Conceptually, it would be like running your project through Google Translate. You’d get something related out the other end, but not anything a native speaker would ever say….


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  • Chris Messineo

    June 23, 2011 at 3:10 am

    They’re smart guys. I think they could have figured it out.

    The key phrase to me is this: “project migration was not a priority.”

    Once you know that, you know so much about how they view the current FCP community.

    Chris Messineo
    Off Stage Films

  • Rob Moragas

    June 23, 2011 at 3:21 am

    Hi,

    Well you may not want to “Project Migrate mid Project ” But if you have capture a whole heap of footage from tape with timecode in FCP 7.0 (cause you can’t capture with timecode in FCPX) It would make sense to be able to at least open up that project in FCP X rather than having to re-import all of the footage to a new event which is currently damn slow, even if you don’t copy the media into a new event!

    Rob

  • Chris Jacek

    June 23, 2011 at 3:23 am

    That sounds exactly like what he would say. In 2000 and 2001, I worked QA on the FCP team. I still remember a good-natured slightly-drunken shouting match during dinner at Quark’s Cafe, when we were working NAB 10 years ago. The FCP designer at the time and I were screaming about how keyboard mapping needed to be added to FCP, and Randy was screaming right back “Editors don’t want that!”

    In the brief time that I knew him, I found Randy to be a brilliant software engineer, who has made some truly elegant stuff. In my opinion, his genius is without question. But when I learned that he was the designer for the new FCP, I was concerned, because I never felt like he understood the end user of a video editing product.

    I was one of the few people on that QA team that came from a production background, rather than a computer background. In the same way that I never really fit in with the “computer” crowd and could never fully understand them, I felt that Mr. Ubilos never really understood the sometimes eccentric editing community who relied on his product.

    Producer/Editor
    and former Apple Employee

  • Chris Kenny

    June 23, 2011 at 3:23 am

    [Chris Messineo] “They’re smart guys. I think they could have figured it out.”

    There is no “figuring this out”. Have you used FCP X, and really wrapped your head around the way its sequences work? They sort of look like they have conventional tracks, and at first glance it seems like imports would be easy, but once you understand what you’re seeing that’s clearly not the case. A competent FCP X editor, when creating a sequence, is creating all sorts of relationships between clips that FCP 7 doesn’t have any way to even represent. For FCP X to import a sequence and have it organized as well as a human would organize it, it would have to literally watch and understand your video….


    Digital Workflow/Colorist, Nice Dissolve.

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  • Tony Silanskas

    June 23, 2011 at 3:25 am

    And as so many have pointed out this is a brand new app so its also to be expected. There are a lot of glaring issues with Media Management in FCP 7 that needed to be worked out. I personally think they are on the right track with forcing people to start fresh and rethink their media organization. Have a long way to go before it’s pro-worthy, though.

    tony

    http://www.HungryCliff.com

  • Paul Nordin

    June 23, 2011 at 3:33 am

    Then if Apple is so smart and knows its not production ready yet (for many workflows anyways). Why did they pull FCS3 so fast? Its that type of thing that has pissed me off. I now have to manage access to my FCS install discs with a lot of care because they just became critical to my business.

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  • Eric Susch

    June 23, 2011 at 3:36 am

    [Chris Messineo] “Final Cut Pro X 1.0 is the beginning of a road, not the end”

    Wow. We all fought for YEARS trying to convince the professional editing community and our clients that FCP was a professional product. It was a long uphill battle. For the past few years it has finally been accepted. Now Apple wants to throw that all away and start over? I can’t tell you how insulted I am by this email.

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  • Matt Callac

    June 23, 2011 at 3:44 am

    [Paul Nordin] “I now have to manage access to my FCS install discs with a lot of care because they just became critical to my business.

    The discs don’t mean a damn thing. You can run to any shop in town to borrow their install discs. your serial number is what’s important.

    I created disc images of all my install discs for FCS3 to make it easier. If you lose your serial number you’re SOL, but you should back that up too.

    -mattyc

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