Illya Laney
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This is a good thread discussing the VT25, G20, Kuro, and 12th/13th generation pro plasmas.
https://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=45835
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I just found that right now. No offense to the BMD guys, but that’s awesome. The HD-SDI pro plasma input costs over 2 grand right?
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Maybe a Black Magic or AJA person can answer this if you don’t know. Would an HD-SDI to HDMI converter transmit a 10 bit signal?
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Where did you read that? Is that just for the pro plasma? The VT25 series can accept 10/12 bit over HDMI. I guess you mean that DaVinci doesn’t do that. The HD-SDI board costs more than the plasma doesn’t it?
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Denver Riddle “I don’t think that’s fair to say they aren’t developing the professional series as quickly as the consumer series”
After ISF calibration, a G20 is more accurate and has better black levels than an equivalent 2010 pro plasma, which means the advances in the professional plasmas are falling behind the consumer models. The G20 is a low end plasma compared to the V series too. I think that’s a legitimate statement. In defense of the pro models, they usually have an HD-SDI/SDI input option but from what I’ve read, the input converts the signal to component.
My understanding is that black levels are absolute and if a monitor can’t produce black levels, a 3D LUT isn’t going to overcome that. The model you mention has the exact same gradation steps as a G20, but it lacks 3D color management so if it’s gamut is off, without an external 3D LUT manager, it won’t be able to get as close to a D65 white point as the G20.
Here’s the problem I see with that, but I don’t know for sure, so anyone should feel free to correct me on this…if you’re using a Decklink to calibrate your inaccurate monitor, wouldn’t another LUT interfere with that calibration and end up being inaccurate because the actual monitor’s accuracy is off?
Just a heads up…if you have the cash to spend on a Davio and TH-42PF20U, you’d be wise to skip the pro model and spend $500 more on a 50″ VT25 because Panasonic hired the Pioneer Kuro engineers to work on them. The Kuro is the benchmark HDTV that all other TV’s(plasma or not) are ultimately compared to. I haven’t seen anything official comparing a V series to a pro plasma but CNET actually said the V series is the best TV they’ve ever reviewed besides the Kuro and they’ve reviewed pro plasmas too.
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So what does a Davio or HDlink do that a good ISF calibrator can’t do?
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Not exactly 3D Luts. I’m just talking straight up calibration. A monitor with 3D color management can be calibrated more precisely. I’d want my monitor as accurate as possible before having any other gear run through it.
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Because that’s a workaround.
The pro plasmas haven’t developed at the same rate as the consumer models and their performance doesn’t justify the extra cash. Why get one when there’s better options?
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Since pro plasma models have had HDMI 1.3 since 2007 I think it’s safe to say yes, they have at least HDMI 1.3. The pro plasmas don’t have 3D color management though so I’d consider spending your cash on something else. As far as HDMI 1.4 goes, I know the G-20 models have at least 1 HDMI 1.4 input so I’m assuming the pro’s have them too.
The Decklink Extreme 3D can feed 4:4:4 to a monitor via HDMI so I think your good on that part, I’m not sure about the exact resolution specs though.
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You’ll probably end up spending $6000-7000 U.S. for a new decked out Mac Pro. I was at a local computer store in LA looking at parts and realized how incredibly cheap it is to build a Windows PC right now. In general I don’t like Windows or Linux, but as dedicated turnkey systems they rock.
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