Panasonic Plasma Monitoring Solution for davinci

[Illya Laney]

Since pro plasma models have had HDMI 1.3 since 2007 I think it’s safe to say yes, they have at least HDMI 1.3. The pro plasmas don’t have 3D color management though so I’d consider spending your cash on something else. As far as HDMI 1.4 goes, I know the G-20 models have at least 1 HDMI 1.4 input so I’m assuming the pro’s have them too.

The Decklink Extreme 3D can feed 4:4:4 to a monitor via HDMI so I think your good on that part, I’m not sure about the exact resolution specs though.

Motion Design, Color, Editing
SWGC Incorporated

[Denver Riddle]

Illya thank you kindly for your response. When you say 3D color management are you referring to feeding it 3D LUT’s? If so either the Davio or BlackMagic’s HDLink allow you to feed 3D LUTS. Though perhaps not on this forum the Panny Plasma’s are quickly becoming the benchmark standard as the Sony BVM CRT’s used to be. Thank you again for the information 🙂

[Joseph Owens]

[Illya Laney] “The pro plasmas don’t have 3D color management though”

Why not do this with the Decklink?

jPo

You mean “Old Ben”? Ben Kenobi?

[Rory Hinds]

is this panasonic plasma 10bit or 8bit?
looked but could not see any mention of it being a true 10bit display

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[Denver Riddle]

To quote Jeff Kilgroe a moderator over at Reduser he had this to say with regards to disputing Panny plasmas as being 10 bit not 8 bit displays:

Panasonic PDP panels haven’t been 8bit since about the 5th generation panels over 4 years ago. And even then, plasma is an analog display technology, so bit restrictions on the display itself are entirely limited to internal processing. With plasma, what matters is the contrast ratio and subfield response time. Current gen plasma panels from most manufacturers have subfield response times of at least 400Hz. Panny 12th gen panels use a 600Hz subfield cycle. They could technically be capable of 12bits of measurable range, however they only accept a 10bit signal as their top input option.

link: https://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?p=568439

Also here’s a great blog article I just stumbled upon about setting up a Panny Plasma for monitoring:

https://dcinema.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/hpa-2010-low-cost-plasma-as-a-reference-monitor-from-provideocoalition/

After attending ICA’s International Colorist Academy this past May it was suggested that monitoring with a single plasma monitor and ditching the reference/client monitor approach in favor of a single monitor that will bypass matching/calibration headaches of the reference/client monitor in favor of single monitor just like you’d have in a color grading theater with only one medium for reference may be the way to go and gain more popular acceptance for client sessions. It’s physically impossible to match two monitors perfectly therefore you and client may see something different as you’re looking at separate monitors.

[Peter Chamberlain]

Currently the HDMI output from Resolve is YUV 10-bit.
RGB 10 bit is available from the DeckLink HD-SDI in dual link and 3G standards.
Peter

[Illya Laney]

Because that’s a workaround.

The pro plasmas haven’t developed at the same rate as the consumer models and their performance doesn’t justify the extra cash. Why get one when there’s better options?

Motion Design, Color, Editing
SWGC Incorporated

[Illya Laney]

Not exactly 3D Luts. I’m just talking straight up calibration. A monitor with 3D color management can be calibrated more precisely. I’d want my monitor as accurate as possible before having any other gear run through it.

Motion Design, Color, Editing
SWGC Incorporated

[Joseph Owens]

[Illya Laney] “Because that’s a workaround. “

Like “baking” an entire timeline, re-cutting it, rendering it twice and re-applying all the effects?

Sounds like a terrific way to efficiently eliminate needless profitability in a workflow. ?

jPo

You mean “Old Ben”? Ben Kenobi?

[Denver Riddle]

The pro plasmas haven’t developed at the same rate as the consumer models and their performance doesn’t justify the extra cash. Why get one when there’s better options?

Uh, I’m to sure about that, this new twenty series mentioned in the first post is all the craze in post houses wanting to do 3D, Panasonic is on the forefront of developing 3D, so I don’t think that’s fair to say they aren’t developing the professional series as quickly as the consumer series. To me what would be interesting is how people would respond if Panasonic started marking their professional pannys at $10,000 & $20,000. Would they take it more seriously? And the most interesting thing to me is in expensive grading suites in post houses are currently using plasmas (Panasonics specifically) as the CRT replacement, yet prosumers don’t think they’re getting a good monitor unless they’re dropping a lot of $$$ on it. To me the plasma outshines (literally) any LCD display LED backlit or not because it’s capable of producing greater dynamic range because it’s a brighter display and stays truer to blacks.

Plasmas are affordable now because their initial high sticker price to offset research and development and manufacturing methods have been recouped and the whole process has been streamlined. The first consumer plasma in 1997 was like $15,000. I think price performance for all reference monitors will come down in the coming years, every electronic does. That’s why I think Panasonic plasma is a great value! Plasma has been around a lot longer than 10bit LED backlit displays, of course it’s not going to cost as much.