Gary Adcock
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I made a minor correction, I had erroneously pasted part of a different response into the original post. I have corrected my mistake.
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[Herb Sevush] “I have a 2 year old 16 TB Maxx Digital raid with an ATTO 680 controller that gets around 800 MB/s both read and write when 80% full. Now explain to me why I should toss this out and spend around 5K to get an equivalent Pegasus that probably isn’t quite as fast? “
I use a nearly same setup using a $400 ATTO Thunderlink housing, with 0 loss in performance from my existing array and it connects to the 4G Fibre backbone for archiving and storage on my network.
Yet I have a 18T Native TBT Pegasus array that is native TBT that I can maintain that same data rate in Raid 5 and it was only $3200. So I get more storage volume and save money.
[Herb Sevush] “My grumpy old man disposition not withstanding,”
Damn Herb, I am not a millennial, or even a GenXr. I am just a realist that change is not a bad thing even though it is sometime painful. I agree with Walter also, that this is a machine that fills a large part of the existing Apple EGO-system, I will get one, but for some of the more specialized work, the Tube is not going to cut it for me.
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[Walter Soyka] “Apple is offering a computer that will be faster than most people need, but still not fast enough for a couple niches with niches. For these small groups, it’s a step backwards from previous Mac Pro designs.”
Correct, and while some of my tasks will do quite well the new MP, most of my high end work will stay on a PC that I can configure specifically for each type of task
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[Walter Soyka] “We’re talking about storage and video I/O, right? What editor can turn those off? How do they slow the system down when they’re on?
“Not everyone on this forum uses their machine for just editing. Your telling me that you turn on everything, every time you turn on your computer? You keep every single peripheral on every minute of the day? That just not logical.
Not every person has need to have the I/O devices on continually as they would be if you were using a card based desktop, that to my thinking is absurd, power stuff up and not use it all? that to me is a waste.
Yes Walter, having multiple peripherals on your computer can slow it down if it not being used.
How many times have you had your whole system wait while an attached FW drive spins up from sleep?That constant pinging to maintain a connection to the OS does draw resources from the OS, there was even a point in the early versions of OSX where it you had to turn off pinging the time servers that make sure the clock is correct to be able to handle some video formats.
Things are changing, we are becoming more and more a portable society and for me Apple is just extending those philosophies to the new desktop and is it really any different than an imac or a mac mini?
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[Herb Sevush] “Do you think they should throw them out when the buy the Tube so they can take advantage of the more power efficient new systems. I won’t.”
Sorry Herb, but that is just foolish, you go ahead and hang onto your multi-year old peripherals but don’t continue to bitch because it no longer suits you.
Most of the Pros I know change out hardware when they update their main editing systems, then pass the old one down the pipeline. Because there has not been an update in over 2 years many people are actually are setting on gear that is 3-5 years old.
This is business and you need to keep reasonably close to current to be able to maintain an edge, to stay ahead. You respond as if the old machine is not still usable in some fashion. You have a marked adversity to change that you have proclaimed here many, many times on the Cow.
“If you have external storage my experience is you generally leave it on as long as the computer is on”
That would not be the experience of many other users here, myself included why have all that crap slowing your computer down if you are not using it, sorry but that is an incredibly bad habit you have and it is not how most of the users I know and work with handle their hardware.
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[Paul Dickin] “Big fan on top:”
Yup,
and a vertical inclosure is going to naturally act as a “chimney” to make cooling much easier than it is to force horizontally driven air across a surface when the expelled heat from the board interacts with the circulating air it wants to naturally rise.gary adcock
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[Herb Sevush] “While the Tube is tiny, it achieves a lot of that “smallness” by offloading features that still have to exist.”
I disagree Herb, without FW or eSata, most will start moving to USB3 and TB for external devices, all of them newer and far more energy efficient than what has been on the market, one focus on externals being that are forced to run cooler externally than if placed inside the machine.
I really think people are missing the point about the new MacPro, most people I know that call themselves “power users” virtually never touch the inner workings of a computer once they buy it. We are talking less than 5% of “power users” ever change graphics cards or swap out drives. Look how many people talking specs here on the Cow are asking about iMac’s for editing and that started LONG BEFORE the Tube was announced this week.
In a tapeless world, I do not see ( nor do I have) the need for an internal card any longer. My TBT storage is head and shoulders faster than my 4G fibre network. I connect to it now via a TBT Fiber adaptor to reach my servers, instead of having an HBA sucking power and generating heat 24hrs a day.
I believe the big difference here in that PCIe cards internally in your computer are drawing massive amounts of power and generating extreme levels of heat where you are using them or not.
Whereas I do not see very many people at all that just leave ever single peripheral they have connected to a machine on an running in the same manner if they are not using them.
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[Ricardo Marty] “Being so tiny but so powerfull could we expect a moderate energy bill?”
The other thing about all of this new Solid State tech internally is that in the “off” state, they use almost no power at all. It is one of the reasons that iOS devices last as long as they do.
Spinning disks consume power as does the logic board that is continually pinging them to stay awake and available ( we all should have turned our sleep settings to OFF on your NLE machine) needs to then be cooled more so the fan runs- it is a never ending cycle.
I was told that the power consumption could be as much as 1/4 of the previous model, mainly do to Apple’s technological zeal for longer battery life on the iDevices.
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[Jason Jenkins] “Is the IoXT supported on Windows? This article makes it sound like that was the intention: https://news.creativecow.net/story/869053“
It is my understanding that the Windows Certification is still the works, it’s just there is far less available in TBT on the Window platform as most of the hardware is still mac centric so the intel certifications for Windows are taking longer.
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[Jonathan peyton] “When cabling from my aja card to our colour monitor what is the preferred (by signal quality connection)
HDMI, ypbpr or sdi”HDSDI- it handles picture, audio and all metadata + 100 ft cable runs without issue.
No timecode over HDMI & long cables degrade signal,
no audio or TC with analog, cables cost more.gary adcock
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