Bill Davis
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[Franz Bieberkopf] “[Bill Davis] “Most people don’t edit movies.”
Bill, I am not sure what distinction you are making here between movies and movies, but the rest of your post is more to the point:
[Bill Davis] “The larger play is increasingly “direct to an audience” via the web.” etc.
I think it’s generally accepted that FCPX is aimed at this market – it’s clearly a consumer product and I don’t think you’re going to find an argument in this forum on that point.
The debate here seems to be why Apple chose to label it as “Pro”.
Franz.”
Franz,
The distinction is between MOVIES – a traditional thing watched in a destination theater and then sold as a discrete unit thereafter via DVD or download. And web-based content like informational programs you might consume via YouTube, VIMEO or the like.
In broad terms, it’s PULL verses PUSH content. (In the sense that Hollywood and the networks used to have to PUSH their content out in the marketplace for consumption. Today, the world is moving rapidly toward PULL consumption.
That’s the world I think FCP-X is heading towards. Judging it totally agains prior programs designed to be excellent at creating PUSH content misses both what it is, and where it fits into the new way things are evolving.
Hope that helps explain what I’m thinking.
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Oliver, I agree with much of what you say, but I’ll note that the Filemaker Pro that Walter grew to know and love started out as a “flat file” system – and only build in quasi-relational capabilities as it progressed.
What I see in X is a much more traditional relational database structure, and as such, it actually capable of more complexity (and therefore might be somewhat harder to grasp) than what FM-Pro presented.
What I see in X is actually hides much of the power of the underlying database, but I expect that that’s precisely where much of the development work in the future will center. We’re learning the baby steps of key wording and metadata tagging in the current build. There’s no telling what kind of DB hooks the industry will come up with in the future, once you have a fully fleshed out program where all the digital data, video, audio, titles, pictures, (and even groupings of the same), can be manipulated in relation to anything else.
Combine that with a world where data “hooks to”, is accessible by, and can be sorted, found and consumed by anyone anywhere via the web, and the possibilities are pretty profound for the long range.
At least in my view.
Mr. Murch, as well as all the rest of us except the very youngest are from a world where this stuff wasn’t possible. In the new Google/Apple-ish world, it’s the future. Whether we like it or not.
FWIW.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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Walter Murch edits MOVIES.
Most people don’t edit movies. OR TV shows, for that matter.
Most people edit to communicate. A significant portion of them edit to communicate for others for money. Of that sub-group, Movies and traditional TV are a further sub-group. The larger play is increasingly “direct to an audience” via the web. If one can’t see that tectonic shift, it’s because you’re not looking.
I noted here in another thread months ago, the story of a young intern in that works on the same local TV show that my wife appears on. That bright, attractive young talented girl had NO interest in working on TV. She had secured a primo entry job in the web world. And viewed broadcast as “old school.” She might have been interested in working on a “movie” – but knowing how painfully slow that process is when done properly, I suspect she might have been bored to death with that kind of career.
That’s where we’re going. And X is being designed for her world. Period. If you keep trying to shoehorn it into a world of feature films and national TV production environments, (outside data heavy tasks like the Sports stuff discussed earlier where data access agility is the driving force) then you’re missing the larger view of what’s happening out there.
Initiatives like VIMEO PRO and the “branded channel” model that Google is clearly building with the YouTube channel ecostructure revamp is where the eyeballs are migrating.
“Content” will NOT mean the same thing in the future that it does right now.
That’s my bet, anyway.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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These threads continue to be so ODD in my opinion.
It’s like we’re living in CLANS here. If you’re in one clan, you MUST dismiss what he other is saying. Your clan reality is the ONLY perspective your willing to shoehorn the entire discussion into. In that sense, I guess it is like the politics of this era. Defaulting to “inflexible” no matter the sense of anything outside our personal predilections.
A few brave souls on EACH side willing to listen to what the other is saying, but everybody else stuck in their world view come hell or high water.
I honestly didn’t feel FCP-X was getting a particularly fair hearing at the beginning because it was so unusual, but now I’m confident that the software is finally being more accurately understood since there are now enough voices who know what it is, rather than exclusively what they originally “wished” it to be. So I’m feeling personally less defensive or antagonistic about the whole thing.
It isn’t worthy of “doom and gloom” and it currently isn’t perfect manna from the software gods. It’s a fresh, new working tool with a tremendous amount of as yet unrealized potential – still in early development.
That’s good enough for me.
Just musing of an evening.
YMM (and very likely will) V.
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Nah, this thread is t’totally practical.
And for anyone interested in archiving their work in a near permanent state, I have a perfectly functioning WIRE RECORDER on my shelf that plays back the audio spools recorded 30 years before I was born.
(just don’t come over with a pocket full of magnets, OK?)
I bet the shelf life of DVDs is going to be at least that good.
Physical tape based stuff, even digital data tapes – I’m not so sure of.
I had a fling with DC-2000 cart storage in the 1990s that left a REALLY bad taste in my mouth.
FWIW
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Not on the machine itself.
The stereo headphone jack obviously puts out a “left-right” signal, so making a switch to ISO each side would be pretty trivial, but the unit itself does not have mono monitoring of each track.
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I think they’re referring to the common practice of making “disc images” of removable, volatile solid state media.
It’s what a lot of us do after every 5d or similar shoot, but the same process works for any solid state memory device.
You use the Apple “disk utility” to make virtual clone of the card. It becomes your backup file and represents a perfect image of the card at the time it was ingested. When you open a disk image, the camera sees it exactly as if the card had been inserted into the card reader including mounting the image on the desktop ready for log and transfer.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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“Silk” is a pretty broad term in the industry.
While the lighting guys mostly consider it diffusion material and use it for lighting control (hence the 1/4 stop reference which relates to how much light it transmits) it’s actually used in theatrical se dressing as well as in lighting, and comes an a bewildering array of colors, weights, and textures.
A good basic education can be had hanging around the Rose Brand web site.
Most “silk” these days is actually artificially created, (Polysilk) rather than the output of silkworms as you would have expected long ago.
Typically the folk at ROSE have swatch books available cheap, so that might be your best bet for matching the fabric you have with what’s available today.
Good luck.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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While you can’t correct “resolution” other than by line doubling etc, you can correct time base errors.
Good analog decks should have a built in TBC, that will strip and re-lay sync. So if you’re dealing with chroma smear – that process will actually improve the quality of the playback of an old tape.
FWIW.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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[David Lawrence] “In FCP7 it’s a single-click operation.”
Well, David, actually two clicks (Command T) without keyboard re-mapping – but the point is well taken since that kind of thing certainly starts to feel like a single action after the first few hundred times you use it.
But isn’t the larger view that Jim is editing like he edited as an AUDIO editor – where audio fades via keyframe manipulation is the norm. And you’re editing like a video editor where transitions via drag and drop presets are the norm?
The issue I have with “drag and drop” is that as a preset, you have to accept whatever you’ve set up as the preset behavior, where Jim’s keyframe fades are always purpose built to the nature of the track being modified.
If we’re going to ask every new NLE implementation, not “can it do the job efficiently” but “can it always do the job in the way I’ve become accustomed to doing it” then this discussion is going to go on for a LONG time and be very frustrating.
Jim, I personally LOVE your “1-frame timing gap clip” concept. It’s something that I never considered and I can see it as a kinda “tent peg” technique that gives me back some of the “fixed track” behavior in the world of the magnetic timeline.
I’m going to try it in my next project. Thanks for posting the idea.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor