Andrew Kimery
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[Bill Davis] “But you can’t tell me that when I post a link about an unquestionable improvement in X – and the responses consistently have nothing to add about that specific improvement beyond “yeah, but this OTHER thing still sucks….” we can talk.”
Kinda like how Walter mentioned PPro’s integration with Adobe Stock (as well as other libraries) and you spun that into how unfair you think Adobe’s licensing terms with photographers are? Or that it’s 2017 and you still feel the need to point out that FCPX had skimming before PPro had hover scrub (2011 vs 2012)? And when Adobe added a proxy mode to PPro last year I’m fairly confident it was met with ‘Hey, nice of Adobe to finally catch up’ type comments.
That sword swings both ways in here.
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You both (Bill, Oliver) are a bit off the mark.
Pro came out in 2003 and the first movie to grace the silver screen from it, AFAIK, was Dust to Glory in 2005. It was a documentary about the Baja 1000 off-road race done by Bandito Brothers (who where PPro advocates way back then). I remember reading about Dust to Gloy in Post magazine and wondering why the hell anyone would use Premiere…
Next notable release was 2010’s Monster (first film from Gareth Edwards who directed the latest Godzilla movie and Rogue One) and 2012’s Navy SEAL movie, Act of Valor (Bandio Brothers again). Gone Girl in 2014 was the first big Hollywood release. Was PPRo incapable up until it was used on Gone Girl? O was it because people who made movies generally thought that PPro was a steaming piece of crap? Was it a bit of both? Premiere as a brand has been around nearly as long as Avid yet it didn’t gain acceptance into the TV and film community (or even the higher end web community) until after FCP Legend was killed. How’s that for a left handed compliment, “Hey PPro, compared to this dead software you aren’t too bad!”
Anyway, I have no idea where this is going anymore. Happy Friday everyone!
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[Bill Davis] “It’s not a conspiracy guys.”
Thanks for the clarification, Bill.
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[Bill Davis] “Because everything in X is just a reference to the core footage, that type of layering is no big deal. “
Are there any NLEs that aren’t non-destructive?
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Have you tried comparing notes with Shane Ross? I think he’s finished 3 or 4 documentaries in Resolve that were cut in X. Maybe you two can become the Dynamic Duo of X to Resolve! 😉
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[Herb Sevush] “- I never seen those types of cloning or drawing tools within any NLE I’ve ever worked with. You could do product removal with Mocha, or something similar, but that’s still leaving your base NLE.”
Have you tried creating a custom mask with the pen tool? For example, I’ve had to erase license plates before (we didn’t blur because we didn’t liked how it looked) from handheld shots and I basically duped the video clip onto V2, used the pen tool to crop out just a portion of the car’s bumper, and then used that to cover the car’s license plate. After feathering the edges it look fine (thankfully the car’s bumper and a pretty plain, uniform look overall).
Each situation is different, but there might be more power in your NLE to cover these types of situations than you think.
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[Bill Davis] “And I suspect that deep down, you know that Herb.”
I suspect part of Herb’s snark is in that you purposefully left off Mads last line about the performance improvement in the timeline (initially I had wondered why you didn’t provide a link to the article where the comment was made). You could have acknowledged the performance issue and highlighted that Apple fixing it is proof positive that Apple listens to its customers that might have more challenging projects than most, and is continuing to advance FCP X for all users.
[Bill Davis] “So trying to spin this as “now it finally works” is unadulterated BS and a bit “sour grapy” IMO “
From a comment below the one Mads made, Stefan Sundlöf said, “This is the most important update so far for us who work in longer formats. I’ve waited over five years for this.”
Don’t paint FCP X as all unicorns and pixies and other people will probably stop pointing out that those creatures don’t exist.
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[Tim Wilson] “That was a dozen years ago or more, so things may have changed. Does one of you know?”
A year or two ago some AEs and editors at Pixar had a panel discussion at EditFest LA and they were still on Avid then so I’d assume they are still on Avid now. Mac or PC Avid? I don’t know. I assume all their 3D animators and render farms are still PC.
Along the same lines, when Apple first started having mobile POS ‘terminals’ in their stores they weren’t on Apple hardware until the iPhone becoming powerful enough for that task.
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[Craig Seeman] “The challenge with music/video content is that I should look for Movie X and know whether I can get it as Buy, Rent or, Subscription and I should be able to watch on the device of my choice, iOS, tvOS, macOS. The problem in executing that gracefully may involve how they’re licensing”
For playing back on different devices there might be licensing restrictions (i.e. you can play it back on a computer or mobile device, but not a TV), but for search I don’t think licensing would cause problems with that. Up until recently Microsoft had universal search on their video game consoles. For example, if I did a search for Star Trek: Deep Space Nine it would look at all the services I had available to me (Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, Xbox Video, etc.,), return any relevant hits, and allow me to chose which service I wanted to watch the show on.
When they recently overhauled their search feature though the universal search disappeared and now searches only returns hits from Microsoft’s first party stores. Kinda blows and I’m hoping universal search will return.
[Bill Davis] “NetFlix has the best model, IMO- but if you decide you want to access something NOT currently on their feed you’re schrooged. It’s a kinda a hybrid push/pull model. You get to “pull” the content you want – but only if they’ve “pushed” it first! “
I’m more a fan of Amazon’s model where you have access to your subscription media and rent/buy media side by side. Netflix does have a better browsing experience though.
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I think Apple’s first big misstep was not rebranding the iTunes store a decade ago (or whenever they started offering movies and TV shows). If the store was called The Apple Media Store (or something like that) then you could have Music, Movies & TV Shows, Apps, etc., all under that umbrella. On the flip side, iTunes had great branding at the time so I’m sure they were loathe to lose that momentum.
Another confusing thing, and this isn’t Apple’s fault, is that many TV/cable networks now have their own apps in order to watch their content which just muddies the waters more. Ex, if I want to watch the Green Arrow TV show on my device I have to download the CW app. Yes, it’s an app, but the only thing the app does is let me watch free TV shows… so what’s the best heading to put it under? Apps or TV?
If Apple ever offers a skinny bundle cable subscription it will get even more layered because now if someone wants to watch Green Arrow they can either buy it from the iTMS, watch the most recent episodes for free via the The CW app, or watch it live (or on DVR) using their skinny bundle.
I think this is why the ‘holy grail’ of this mess is to put all the different stores in the background and focus on search. I go “Hey Siri, I want to watch the Green Arrow TV show” and Siri will just find Green Arrow regardless of what service it’s on. Microsoft has been doing this for a while with the Xbox and Xbox One, but I don’t think the results factor in OTA or cableTV.