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  • 10.3.2 Is out – WOW review from a huge X facility in Europe.

    Posted by Bill Davis on January 19, 2017 at 11:44 pm

    My friend Mads Larsen Nielsen – who works at the huge Metronome facility in Europe posted this on today’s 10.3.2 update to FCP X…

    “I kid you not when I say this this, for us at Metronome and basically anyone who works with FCPX in the pro television industry, doing shows/long-form projects, also including anyone cutting feature films, FCPX 10.3.2 is one of the most, if not the most important release of FCPX, ever since the initial launch.”

    In the spirit of the forum title, I thought this was useful news.

    Carry on.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

    Robin S. kurz replied 9 years, 3 months ago 22 Members · 96 Replies
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  • Oliver Peters

    January 20, 2017 at 12:28 am

    Funny. Also from Nielsen: “Now we are actually ABLE to work in the timeline.” This pertains to large projects (sequences) and is something many of us have been complaining about for a long, long time. Yet many would argue that the issue doesn’t exist. ☺

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • David Mathis

    January 20, 2017 at 1:13 am

    Nice update but still no out of sync indicators. ????

  • Bill Davis

    January 20, 2017 at 1:29 am

    Yep, and Cindy Crawford STILL has that damn MOLE!!!

    I haven’t lost “sync” on anything in about 4 years now. Learn to manage your clips via the X “reference clips” system (embedded audio clips, sync clips, compound clips, and multcam clips) – and you might might never have to lose sync on anything in a storyline again either?

    Sync loss happens in my experience to people who rely on either “detach audio” or “break apart clip items” to work on their audio in ways they are more conditioned to in tracked timelines. It’s pretty darn easy to avoid the problem in X. If you have to shift audio, just mute the source clip in place, make a quick audio only copy – and drop it in as a connected audio clip elsewhere. Give it a quick “Wild lines” Role so you can locate it super fast if you ever need to. No need to break anything apart and destroy the sync relationship when everything is just a digital abstraction anyway.

    FWIW.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

  • Michael Hancock

    January 20, 2017 at 2:02 am

    Or Apple could add out-of-sync indicators. I know I’d prefer they do that than have to do silly workarounds.

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    Michael Hancock
    Editor

  • Andy Patterson

    January 20, 2017 at 2:07 am

    [Bill Davis]
    Sync loss happens in my experience to people who rely on either “detach audio” or “break apart clip items” to work on their audio in ways they are more conditioned to in tracked timelines. It’s pretty darn easy to avoid the problem in X. If you have to shift audio, just mute the source clip in place, make a quick audio only copy – and drop it in as a connected audio clip elsewhere. Give it a quick “Wild lines” Role so you can locate it super fast if you ever need to. No need to break anything apart and destroy the sync relationship when everything is just a digital abstraction anyway.”

    Why can’t people have the best of both worlds? Shouldn’t more options be welcomed?

  • Bill Davis

    January 20, 2017 at 5:27 am

    Sure.

    Apple needs to keep their sights firmly on re-creating ALL the old tools and conventions so that they can concentrate on giving everyone what they are USED TO!

    Cuz, you know, all the different stuff like range selected keywording, magnetism, the skimmer, and roles – all that stuff is silly when the development team COULD spend their time adding back ALL the traditional stuff older editors have had for years, (even when, as I was describing, it’s less relevant in the style of editing X excels at.)

    No reason to spend time trying to move forward here.

    The old ways are always the BEST ways.

    Heck, I was trained in the 1980s to edit by cutting mylar tape with a razor blade.

    It was SO tactile and SO obvious…. HEY! Wait just a second… I’ve got it! X should figure out how to turn the Touch Bar into a virtual Splicing Block complete with virtual 45 and 90 degree “cuts”!!!

    That would be, like… sick.

    ; )

    (I’m truly teasing. There’s nothing wrong with sync indicators, of course. And it’s a perfectly understandable capability that many editors would appreciate. And who knows, maybe they will eventually make their way into X. Its just that NOT waiting for traditional stuff like that is likely why the X team has managed to keep the innovation flowing with stuff like the deep Roles re-build in 10.3.

    And THATs where I want the X developers to keep their focus. That saves DAYS potentially. While sync slip indicators save, at best seconds occasionally. FWIW.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

  • Steve Connor

    January 20, 2017 at 7:26 am

    [Bill Davis] “And THATs where I want the X developers to keep their focus. That saves DAYS potentially. While sync slip indicators save, at best seconds occasionally. FWIW.”

    For YOUR workflow, other people’s milage DOES vary

    You don’t have to shout down EVERY request for new features!

  • Andy Patterson

    January 20, 2017 at 9:11 am

    [Bill Davis] “Apple needs to keep their sights firmly on re-creating ALL the old tools and conventions so that they can concentrate on giving everyone what they are USED TO!

    Cuz, you know, all the different stuff like range selected keywording, magnetism, the skimmer, and roles – all that stuff is silly when the development team COULD spend their time adding back ALL the traditional stuff older editors have had for years, (even when, as I was describing, it’s less relevant in the style of editing X excels at.)”

    Are you saying that FCPX is such a horrible program that by adding out-of-sync indicators the keyword collection and magnetic timeline would stop working? That would be like saying Premiere can have a titling tool or key framing but not both. Why not have it all?

    [Bill Davis] “Heck, I was trained in the 1980s to edit by cutting mylar tape with a razor blade.”

    I did the same thing on an old Otari reel to reel system. I bet a lot of us here have had to cut and splice tap. Did you do a straight cut or and angled cut : )

    Heck, I used to have to edit with old analogue 3/4″ tapes and Beta tapes but I am not sure what that has to to with the price or turtle wax : )

  • Scott Witthaus

    January 20, 2017 at 11:21 am

    Another way to look at it is that if you are out of sync, you purposely split audio and video elements. Well, you just made your own bed and now you have to sleep in it! ???? (insert cranky old voice here): ‘back in my day, your eyes were the best sync indicator! Mouth moves without sound, well then you’re out if sync, sonny!’

    With the momentum FCPX seemingly has, I just wonder why Apple let’s Motion and Logic seemingly sit in the background. Get all three in the spotlight and get them working seamlessly together and you have a helluva package to sell.

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
    1708 Inc./Editorial
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Steve Connor

    January 20, 2017 at 12:54 pm

    Kudos to Apple though for the recent pace of FCPX updates, really inspires confidence in the future

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