[Adam Mercado]

thanks for the tips Kevin. I am trying RSMP post-Timewarp, but I will try pre-Timewarp too and see how that looks.

Slow – you aint kidding. Like molases, and for a MARGINAL improvement. Suck!

The slight degradation of the image is not too bothersome, its the horrible judder that really troubles me.

As far as getting these re-rendered, geez i’d love that. It took me 2 months just to get a disk of AVI’s after they tried to supply me with MPEGs. So i’m thinking no way. Gah! clients!!!

cheers
mm66

Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Production
Motion Graphics & Video Post Production
Fullerton, CA

[Adam Mercado]

Hi Dave

So it comes back to Twixtor. I was hoping this would not be the case, but I feel you are right. Spent all night rendering 5 of these clips using Timewarp, and the stuttering is still very much present. I was really expecting The Kramer Technique to work considering how involved it is compared to just rendering out at 24fps. The difference is negligible.

As far as upscaling, this is not so much an issue. The upscale is a bit soft but within the clients satisfaction margins. I did explain to them the pitfalls of upscaling and they are okay with that. There is not budget for InstantHD. The stutter and judder is very bad though, my main concern.

The 4:3 clips are sitting centered over a textured BG in the 1280×720 frame.

Thanks again for the input.

cheers
mm66

Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Production
Motion Graphics & Video Post Production
Fullerton, CA

[Adam Mercado]

Thanks Kevin, if you read my response to Dave you will see this is progressive and true 29.97 3D animation.

All interpretations are correct in AE. I have fields kit but it did not appear to make any difference to the smoothness of my render. Twixtor is out of my budget, and I have heard other reliable comments about Timewarp. Figuring it did a close enough approximation as Twixtor I decided to stick with it.

Is it typically slow buggy and crash prone?

cheers
mm66

Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Production
Motion Graphics & Video Post Production
Fullerton, CA

[Adam Mercado]

Hi Dave

Yes I am very familiar with the term 3:2 Pulldown.

Unfortunately in this case it does not apply.

The media in question was created in a 3D animation app. It was rendered (I assume, as it was supplied to me this way) at 29.97 at 720×480, but I have since scaled it up to 960×720 to fit in my show. I don’t think it is interlaced, AE does not recognize it as such, and none of the tell-tale signs are there.

So no pull down.

Are you familiar with the Andrew Kramer frame rate conversion technique. If not you should. Its very useful. It uses timewarp to pixel smooth the frames. In theory it should work well, but on my MacPro it fails badly.

Thanks
mm66

Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Production
Motion Graphics & Video Post Production
Fullerton, CA

[Adam Mercado]

there was a plugin by Digital Anarchy called Instant HD. DA got bought by Red Giant so not sue if it still exists. Supposedly it had very effective algorithms for upscaling.

Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Production
Motion Graphics & Video Post Production
Fullerton, CA

[Adam Mercado]

Well that assumes the same person doing the capture is the same person doing the edit. Or finishing the edit. Or doing graphics.

And this IS a collaborative industry after all.

cheers
mm66

Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Production
Motion Graphics & Video Post Production
Fullerton, CA

[Adam Mercado]

Thats awesome Greg. Thanks for the tip I will go check it out.

cheers
adam

Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Production
Motion Graphics & Video Post Production
Fullerton, CA

[Adam Mercado]

No, i believe this footage is pre-P2 era. It maybe possibly transcoded from another hardware system

thanks for the P2 player link though.

adam

Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Production
Motion Graphics & Video Post Production
Fullerton, CA

[Adam Mercado]

So I updated Premier to 3.2 and the presets for DVCPro are there. Great.

However I cannot preview clips in QuickTime, the DVCPro codec is not installed to the system library. I take it the codec is built into Premier somehow. Is there no way to get the DVCPro codec into the system? I guess I would need to import footage and transcode to P-JPEG for preview which seems like a bit of a pain.

cheers
mm66

Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Production
Motion Graphics & Video Post Production
Fullerton, CA

[Adam Mercado]

Great tip thanks David
will check it out

-Adam

Adam Mercado
Influxx Media Production
Motion Graphics & Video Post Production
Fullerton, CA