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Why Change?
Posted by Iain Mackinnon on August 20, 2009 at 3:55 pmI’m still getting to grips with my FCP HD 4 system.
I’m still a beginner at this carry on and that’s why i’m always on here.
every time i have a question however, everyone says “Wow! That’s like, so old!” etc…
So? do i HAVE to upgrade?
is my version cack?
Advise please. i thought i was doing rather well 🙁I used to spend my time wondering, now it’s all used up rendering.
Rafael Amador replied 16 years, 7 months ago 9 Members · 15 Replies -
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Walter Biscardi
August 20, 2009 at 4:00 pmIf you don’t need to upgrade, then don’t.
What you gain with the newer versions is more speed and more features. For instance we just switched from FCP 6 to FCP 7 in the middle of a very large documentary. What we noticed right away is that the project is opening much much faster and overall operation is much faster no matter what machine it is opened on. That alone was worth the price of upgrade.
And for us, Color is so integral to our workflow that I can’t see not having it around.
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Iain Mackinnon
August 20, 2009 at 4:04 pmColor? don’t know that one, is it new?
i’m not sure, i like the idea of these upgrades but i remember when i upgraded Photoshop from 7 to CS.
Went back 3 months later.
still using PS7 todey.
it’s easier to use even without all the extra features. 🙂I used to spend my time wondering, now it’s all used up rendering.
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Walter Biscardi
August 20, 2009 at 4:09 pm[Iain MacKinnon] “Color? don’t know that one, is it new? “
https://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/color/
Application is 5 or 6 years old. Purchased by Apple 2 years ago.
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David Roth weiss
August 20, 2009 at 4:47 pmIain,
The version of the software you’re using is now nearly seven years old –that’s a long, long time in technological terms. However, ideas can still be communicated well with just a number 2 pencil and a sheet of plain white paper, so improved technology isn’t mandatory for everything or everyone. However, the communication of ideas does tend to improve as more time can be devoted to it, and more creative time is what you could expect by using the later versions of the FCP app.
The biggest difference you would notice immediately in the more modern versions of FCP is realtime performance. The realtime engine in FCP made it’s debut in FCP 5, and significant improvements in realtime performance have been made in every release since then. I can assure you, a whole lot more of your editing day with FCP 4 is being spent rendering than for anyone using FCP 5 and beyond.
Is your creative time value?
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Rafael Amador
August 20, 2009 at 4:57 pmIf you intend to cut and export DV forever, without any kind of Color Correction, filters or motion animation may be OK.
If you want to do some basic CC, the FC 4.5 Videoscope, doesn’t works (fixed in FC 6 I think).
You have no rendering options (YUV/RGB) neither Motion rendering options (Lineal, Better, Best).
Most of your filters and transitions will be done in RGB.
You are limited to the kind of codecs you can use.
There is also something call RT..
And few others thing that I don’t remember because I stopped working with FC 4.5 few years ago.
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Stephen Smith
August 20, 2009 at 5:02 pmFrom what I recall they change the User Interface from Photoshop 7 to CS. Making the upgrade a little more difficult. The new FCP and FCP 4 look very similar so the upgrade will not be difficult, if that is what you want to do.
Check out the TV Show Open I did.
Check out my DVD Money Making Graphics & Effects for Final Cut Studio 2
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Devin Crane
August 20, 2009 at 6:02 pmHow old is the machine that you are on? The new upgrade is Intel only, so no G5 or G4.
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Shane Ross
August 20, 2009 at 6:39 pmFCP 4 actually was the WORSE version of FCP ever released. Many companies switched to FCP from Avid when that came out and had nothing but disasters, and switched back. SO many things wrong with it I can’t start to say. FCP 4.5 came out a VERY short time later and is still one of the most stable versions ever. Heck, FCP 3 is better than FCP 4.0.
But do you need to upgrade? If working with DV only…no, you don’t. All versions of FCP work fine with DV. But if you start needing to work with HDV, or DVCPRO HD, or AVCHD…then you need to upgrade. But if you work fine with what you have…no reason to upgrade. Well, other than that is the most unstable version ever, so you might grow to hate FCP due to its instability.
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Zane Barker
August 20, 2009 at 7:24 pmYou say “FCP HD 4 System”. From what I remember v4 could not do HD what I belive was introduced with 4.5 I could be wrong as it has been a while.
The biggest problem with learning on such an old system is that vary few other people out there are using it. So when you ask a question on how to do this or what is the best workflow for that, the way the most people do those things has changed becaus of newer technology and software advancements.
There are no “technical solutions” to your “artistic problems”.
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Stephen Smith
August 20, 2009 at 8:14 pm[Zane Barker]
You say “FCP HD 4 System”. From what I remember v4 could not do HD what I belive was introduced with 4.5 I could be wrong as it has been a while.Often times it was called Final Cut Pro HD instead of Final Cut Pro 4.5. So yes, it was so you cold do HD. We switched from 4 to 4.5 in the middle of a project and it did all sorts of crazy stuff to the project. Bad times.
Check out the TV Show Open I did.
Check out my DVD Money Making Graphics & Effects for Final Cut Studio 2
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