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  • Sure hope this place stays relevant…

    Posted by Bill Davis on September 17, 2017 at 5:42 am

    Trying to keep stopping by here, but IBC is Rocking in Amsterdam and I’m in threads with 100s of posts debating and talking about FCP X elsewhere – and it’s comparative crickets here.

    That’s kinda sad for me to see, really.

    Maybe so much constant X hostility in the forum – and constant billboard posts featuring anything but X – has sunk into the markets consciousness and come home to roost.

    That would be a bummer.

    My landing page here, sorted by thread, yet again, doesn’t show a single line featuring the letters FCP X on the front page.

    Probably just my settings.

    Oh well.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

    Steve Connor replied 8 years, 7 months ago 12 Members · 36 Replies
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  • Steve Connor

    September 17, 2017 at 7:28 am

    [Bill Davis] “Trying to keep stopping by here, but IBC is Rocking in Amsterdam and I’m in threads with 100s of posts debating and talking about FCP X elsewhere – and it’s comparative crickets here.

    Where are these forums that are debating FCPX? I’m a keen FCPX user who’s very interested in forums and all the forums and Facebook groups I follow are similar to the “other” FCPX forum here on the COW in that they are mostly about problem solving and how to use FCPX. I haven’t found any that have the broad range of debate related to FCPX that you get here.

    [Bill Davis] “Maybe so much constant X hostility in the forum – and constant billboard posts featuring anything but X – has sunk into the markets consciousness and come home to roost.”

    Almost every thread on here eventually references FCPX, even if it’s about Adobe, also there’s lot’s of activity on the “other” FCPX forum here, there’s no negativity there, yet I notice you don’t seem to hang around there much.

    [Bill Davis] “and it’s comparative crickets here.”

    Strange, I count around 300 posts in here in the last 16 days, hardly “crickets”

  • Oliver Peters

    September 17, 2017 at 12:22 pm

    I’m not sure I understand Bill’s original post. But if IBC is rocking, what’s the FCPX-related news out of IBC?

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Steve Connor

    September 17, 2017 at 12:31 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “I’m not sure I understand Bill’s original post.”

    Wishful thinking that a a forum that gets great Google search rankings and doesn’t only say nice things about FCPX is on it’s way out 🙂

  • Bret Williams

    September 17, 2017 at 2:23 pm

    2 or 3 threads below is a huge thread that you didn’t even comment on debating how to efficiently use Premiere vs FCPX. It’s right up your alley and I think almost every post says FCPX. So yeah, it’s your settings (what settings?). Maybe you’re searching for fcp x and not FCPX.

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  • Steve Connor

    September 17, 2017 at 3:23 pm

    [Steve Connor] “[Bill Davis] “Trying to keep stopping by here, but IBC is Rocking in Amsterdam and I’m in threads with 100s of posts debating and talking about FCP X elsewhere – and it’s comparative crickets here.

    Where are these forums that are debating FCPX? I’m a keen FCPX user who’s very interested in forums and all the forums and Facebook groups I follow are similar to the “other” FCPX forum here on the COW in that they are mostly about problem solving and how to use FCPX. I haven’t found any that have the broad range of debate related to FCPX that you get here.”

    I had a spare hour so I’d thought I’d do a Google and Facebook search to try and find some of these great sounding discussions and I haven’t really found much apart from the excellent fcp.co and problem solving forums and FB groups. Now I’m sure they are happening somewhere but if they aren’t easy to find then that’s not good news for other FCPX users?

  • Bill Davis

    September 17, 2017 at 5:54 pm

    [Steve Connor] “Where are these forums that are debating FCPX? I’m a keen FCPX user who’s very interested in forums and all the forums and Facebook groups I follow are similar to the “other” FCPX forum here on the COW in that they are mostly about problem solving and how to use FCPX. I haven’t found any that have the broad range of debate related to FCPX that you get here.”

    Sorry, but out of respect for this forum, I’m not going to link to other places and risk shifting the Cow traffic (that DOES want to discuss X rather than other NLE approaches) there.

    But I’m in more than one debate thread elsewhere (focused on X) that have easily gained 150 debate posts or more in a couple of days.

    Those are often populated with posts by facilities level FCP experts in larger global operations – none of whom we’ve been able to attract here.

    My point is only that this place, (which could easily have become the runaway “go to” place for X debate measured by participation) – may be fading in particapatory significance to the broader FCP X community.

    I’ve said before I feel that’s due to a combination of relentlessly lingering hostility expressed here – plus the constant barrage of posts focused on other tools – but I know others don’t see it that way.

    We’ll see what happens over time.

    And yes, I am spending less and less of my relative time here, Steve.

    I truly wish many of the very stimulating debates I’ve participated in elsewhere this week would have happened here. But they didn’t.

    That saddens me because I think the quality of the discussions here is still outstanding – but as robust as the Cow site traffic surely still is, there are tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of highly participatory X users out there who will never read them -as it appears the “action” in the global X community has largely migrated elsewhere.

    Sad to me, that’s all.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

  • Oliver Peters

    September 17, 2017 at 6:11 pm

    [Bill Davis] “But I’m in more than one debate thread elsewhere (focused on X) that have easily gained 150 debate posts or more in a couple of days.”

    Clearly this means the “debate” is not settled and there’s still a lot of resistance to X for whatever reason. Otherwise there wouldn’t be such volume.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Steve Connor

    September 17, 2017 at 6:25 pm

    [Bill Davis] “That saddens me because I think the quality of the discussions here is still outstanding – but as robust as the Cow site traffic surely still is, there are tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of highly participatory X users out there who will never read them -as it appears the “action” in the global X community has largely migrated elsewhere.

    Maybe, but I’m not sure how they will find these mythical forums that are “elsewhere” ☺

    [Bill Davis] “Sorry, but out of respect for this forum, I’m not going to link to other places and risk shifting the Cow traffic (that DOES want to discuss X rather than other NLE approaches) there.

    That is a real risk because people can’t participate in more than one forum very easily 🙂

  • Oliver Peters

    September 17, 2017 at 6:44 pm

    [Steve Connor] “Maybe, but I’m not sure how they will find these mythical forums that are “elsewhere” ☺”

    Bill likes to poke around on the “dark web” ☺

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Steve Connor

    September 17, 2017 at 6:50 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “Bill likes to poke around on the “dark web” ☺

    Ha! It would explain why these very active FCPX forums are beyond the reach of Google search 🙂

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