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Marcus Moore
March 7, 2013 at 5:52 amOh, I know they’re there every year.
Last year they released 10.0.4 just before NAB [which was mostly maintenance with a few minor feature tweaks] and then held their “one on one’s” the warmup weekend.
I’m definitely hoping for some proper announcements though. We’ll be due a major update by early April.
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Marcus Moore
March 7, 2013 at 5:57 amI’m trying to imagine how a scrubbable filmstrip would do anything but slow things down.
Right now there’s no clicking involved in putting material in the event viewer- just scrub over your Event clips. You’d have to double-click a clip to have it “stick” in the Event viewer, which takes us back to the FCP7 paradigm. There may be a compromise but I don’t see it.
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Marcus Moore
March 7, 2013 at 6:01 amPeople are going to talk about things their invested in. I’m honestly fascinated watching this software evolve- so speculation is only natural.
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Charlie Austin
March 7, 2013 at 6:40 am[Marcus Moore] “I’m trying to imagine how a scrubbable filmstrip would do anything but slow things down.
Right now there’s no clicking involved in putting material in the event viewer- just scrub over your Event clips. You’d have to double-click a clip to have it “stick” in the Event viewer, which takes us back to the FCP7 paradigm. There may be a compromise but I don’t see it.”
Yeah, that’s true… But if you highlight an event clip anyway to skim it, perhaps you’d get a little skim strip at the bottom of the event viewer if you choose to use it. Personally I don’t, but when I have it seemed like you should be able to skim it somehow. I dunno.
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Chris Harlan
March 7, 2013 at 6:54 am[Marcus Moore] “People are going to talk about things their invested in. I’m honestly fascinated watching this software evolve- so speculation is only natural.”
Believe me, I’m quite invested in Apple products. I’m still very interested in watching X evolve as software, as well as what’s going on with accompanying hardware. I still very interested in what people think should be there or what should not. I enjoy people’s different theories and ideas and projections. Speculating about what Apple is or is not going to do at a show in three weeks–not so much. But that’s me.
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Erik Lindahl
March 7, 2013 at 12:17 pmFilm-strips and / or mini-timelines under each view yes please. It’s a far better visual feeback than the system now. Scrubbing has it’s finness but it’s not the answer for everything for sure (even terribad at times). This in conjuction with proper timecode read-outs would really be a boost. Also the event viewer being simply an event views renders it useless for operations such as grading and comparing scenes with-in an edit. Since the changes made to compound clips you can in teory get around this limitation by working with compounds as you edits / seqences / projects (what ever you want to call them) but that sort of renders the idéa projects out of the window (which I sort of thought they did in the first place but that’s a different story all together).
I understand Apple and some “hooked” people like the new “floating” workflow but it does have it’s issues and I don’t see any issues mixing these new idéas with old very workable or sometimes features. Apple could also use the secondary viewer as a more flexible “secondary viewer” if they wish to. To a degree you go back to a viewer / canvas setup but it’s such an important tool I don’t see how they can’t go back there to a degree while keeping to their new padagrim as well.
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Marcus Moore
March 7, 2013 at 2:11 pmI agree with you completely on expanding the capabilities of the Event viewer. I guess the way that I edit, which is to do rough selections and then refine in the timeline [which is not how everyone works]- the passive scan and drop has been such a HUGE time-saver over FCP7 “double click clip, scrub, next clip, scrub” that having to double click (or command click) on a clip to bring it to the Event viewer seems archaic to me. I can see certain operations where getting finer skimming detail would be advantageous, but it would need to be a special operation.
Playing thru an export in QTX yesterday, it occurs to me that it would be great if they could incorporate a way where if you’re hovering over part of an single thumbnail Event clip- it zero’s in to a second or so of content to allow for making finer grain selections on that thumbnail.
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Erik Lindahl
March 7, 2013 at 2:20 pmSpeaking of thumbnails, the generated thumb-strip in FCPX has to get way better. It’s really bad that they show the wrong thumb at a given point in time. It’s more confusing than helpful to me IMO. I get that generating icons like they do have their issues but they for example don’t show scene-breaks correctly even after you split a clip into two sections.
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Marcus Moore
March 7, 2013 at 2:20 pmExactly, we need organization, but not “tracks” as other NLEs have them. Track information is just another form of metadata. What we need is for Role info to be represented in the timeline. Tracks are a means to an end, and not an end unto themselves.
The parallel I keep coming back to is Events. The static organizational model from other NLEs are Bins. You make a bin, you put something in a bin. FCPX’s keywording goes at the same problem from a completely different direction- it’s unquestionably a more fluid solution, but with the same result.
Once Apple leverages the Role data for clips in the timeline, it will “look” very familiar, but the underpinnings will be [like Events] very different.
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Marcus Moore
March 7, 2013 at 2:26 pmYou choose your own level of involvement in speculation, I suppose. A lot of people get burnt out of Apple’s products before they’re released because they generate so much discussion, online and in the press. This is in no way Apple’s fault and there’s really nothing they could do about it outside of going the “pre-announce” route, which it’s almost entirely unlikely.
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