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  • Bill Davis

    March 6, 2013 at 11:00 pm

    [Charlie Austin] “[David Mathis] “maybe Final Cut Pro X will give us tracks ”

    God I hope not.”

    Amen brother.

    The LAST thing we need is to turn the only real editing alternative in the marketplace into just another “same as everyone else” NLE.

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  • Charlie Austin

    March 6, 2013 at 11:06 pm

    [Bill Davis] “The LAST thing we need is to turn the only real editing alternative in the marketplace into just another “same as everyone else” NLE.”

    Well, there are plenty of alternatives. And Apple really do need to come up with a way to visually organize the timeline better. You get used to things jumping around, but Roles really do need to stick together. Some sort of Logic integration will hopefully address concerns of folks who need to throw faders. 😉

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  • Craig Seeman

    March 6, 2013 at 11:17 pm

    Yes clear organization is important and I think that should be done through Roles. I do hope Apple pays some attention to Roles in the near future. It’s one of the key reasons why I see hope in the trackless timeline.

  • Bill Davis

    March 6, 2013 at 11:33 pm

    [Charlie Austin] “Well, there are plenty of alternatives”

    (counting on my fingers) Avid, Premier, Vegas, Lightworks, Autodesk (Flame/Smoke) X and what?)

    What other NLE programs are out there in general use?

    Pinacle still hanging on? Montage? Are there still hidden Toaster suites out there?

    The “big A’s” plus Sony is a pretty narrow space. But I could certainly ignorant of wider choices.

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  • Chris Harlan

    March 7, 2013 at 12:08 am

    [Michael Sanders] “NAB isn’t far away – surely it’s about time the rumours started?

    I’m actually surprised by how far I’ve moved into the “who cares” corner. I’m not being flippant about what you wrote, or other people’s excitement. I truly AM surprised at how burnt out I am over speculating what Apple may or may not do in the near future. I guess I’ve begun to feel that constantly having these conversations is like putting on a sock puppet show for the sales department.

  • Erik Lindahl

    March 7, 2013 at 2:48 am

    Yes please, give us tracks back. I don’t se why tracks and the magnetic stuff can’t go-excist along with roles. Perhaps you don’t have to call it “tracks” but “role lanes” or something similar like “lane grouping” is needed. Timelines very easily become a mess with the current setup since you have little or no control over your vertical layout.

    I’d call it dynamic tracks or what not. Tracks 2.0.

    And I’d love to see the event viewer become a real secondary viewer. It’s a little crippled in it’s current form.

  • Charlie Austin

    March 7, 2013 at 2:55 am

    [Erik Lindahl] ” something similar like “lane grouping” is needed. Timelines very easily become a mess with the current setup since you have little or no control over your vertical layout.

    I’d call it dynamic tracks or what not. Tracks 2.0.

    And I’d love to see the event viewer become a real secondary viewer. It’s a little crippled in it’s current form.”

    I’m a big proponent of not having fixed tracks. I love not patching or worrying about collisions/accidental overwriting etc. But I think role grouping and hopefully color coding is needed. cutting a music clip at the bottom of the timeline and having half of it pop to the top because the space is open is kind of silly. Let’s hope they’re working on that.

    And having the event viewer at least contain a scrubbable filmstrip or something would be nice.

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  • Michael Gissing

    March 7, 2013 at 3:34 am

    I am a bit ‘who cares’ too Chris. I have my new PC screamer running da Vinci and CS6. I have just put an AVID cut feature film through a quick grade and bluray for investors & crew screening. Apart from my learning curve I was able to work faster on the grade and most of the quirks were just me learning new software.

    At this stage the usual “what will Apple do this NAB” stuff is water off this little ducks back. A little distance does make the rumour milling seem like wish fulfilment rather than anything informed or important.

  • Chris Harlan

    March 7, 2013 at 3:57 am

    [Michael Gissing] “A little distance does make the rumour milling seem like wish fulfilment rather than anything informed or important.

    Yup.

  • Keith Koby

    March 7, 2013 at 4:04 am

    They are “there”, and they do meet with people.

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