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  • Oliver Peters

    June 9, 2017 at 11:43 pm

    [Brian Seegmiller] “I would create a multicam and then use keywords, markers, favorites and or notes. Simple.”

    That works for the source clip, however, at that point you really have no advantage in X over other NLEs. Yes, you could reject and hide sections, but that doesn’t show you the re-arranged flow. Typically when I cut interviews, I do all of that in the timeline, saving and duplicating sequences for interim versions that I can revert to as needed. The re-arranging part goes faster, in theory, with the magnetic timeline (fewer keystrokes). But I find it easy to lose your place when moving a long distance up or down the sequence. Especially when dealing with the typical “frankenbites”. Hence, copy & paste/insert seems to be more accurate – at least for me.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Brian Seegmiller

    June 10, 2017 at 3:59 am

    As I keyword the footage I put in into the timeline and build the edit anyway I like. You are assuming I leave it in the browser. I can even divide my storyline into sections for other versions. I do hate the thought of managing tracks when it is time do finesse the edit. Oh wait, I don’t have to worry about that.

  • Tony West

    June 10, 2017 at 5:07 am

    Thanks for the links but I don’t need them. The whole point of a Smart Collection is for organization.

    Greg said he didn’t organize. He literally wrote “it eliminates the need to organize”

    So I don’t see Simon agreeing with that unless he flipped flopped.

  • Oliver Peters

    June 10, 2017 at 12:41 pm

    [Tony West] “So I don’t see Simon agreeing with that unless he flipped flopped.”

    Or maybe his system evolved into a better approach ☺

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Oliver Peters

    June 10, 2017 at 12:42 pm

    [Brian Seegmiller] “Oh wait, I don’t have to worry about that.”

    I’ve inherited projects from others where it looks like they didn’t worry too much about tracks either. ☺

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Tony West

    June 10, 2017 at 10:29 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “Or maybe his system evolved into a better approach ☺”

    Or he maybe he forgot about the last approach : )

  • Tony West

    June 10, 2017 at 10:37 pm

    [Andrew Kimery] “I mainly use sequences for organization and with the pancake method (broll and interview sequences on top, editing sequences on bottom)”

    How do you separate the B-roll?

    Say you have b-roll from 6 different cities. Where is your b-roll kept? Do you just mix it all in together? Instead of Chicago b-roll separated from St. Louis B-roll and Missouri River Separated from Ohio River and so on?

  • Brian Seegmiller

    June 10, 2017 at 10:49 pm

    They would make more sequences. I would just create a keyword.

  • Andrew Kimery

    June 11, 2017 at 5:59 am

    [Tony West]
    Say you have b-roll from 6 different cities. Where is your b-roll kept? Do you just mix it all in together? Instead of Chicago b-roll separated from St. Louis B-roll and Missouri River Separated from Ohio River and so on?”

    Depends on the situation though last year I worked on a doc project that had a 14hr long broll timeline. I used markers to organize it and played back never chocked. The Marker Window is searchable so it’s pretty easy to narrow in on what I need.

    -Andrew

  • Tony West

    June 11, 2017 at 12:17 pm

    [Andrew Kimery] “a 14hr long broll timeline. I used markers to organize it and played back never chocked. The Marker Window is searchable so it’s pretty easy to narrow in on what I need.”

    Wow, that’s interesting. I can see how it could work.

    I have never tried to load up a 14 hour timeline on my computer. It may be able to handle it but even if it did it would take longer than loading the shots in the browser after clicking on the Keyword because it would only be dealing with a certain group of shots.

    do you label every every single b-roll clip with a marker?

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