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More Bricklayers and Sculptors from Oliver and Simon
Posted by David Lawrence on June 8, 2017 at 1:19 amGreat new post on Oliver’s blog, deep diving into Simon’s recent Bricklayers and Sculptors thread. Thanks for posting Oliver, and thanks Simon for giving us an in-depth look at how you organize and edit.
https://digitalfilms.wordpress.com/2017/06/07/bricklayers-and-sculptors/
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Oliver Peters
June 8, 2017 at 11:25 pm[Brian Seegmiller] ” To each his or her own”
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Greg Janza
June 9, 2017 at 12:53 amI think this thread and the originating thread might be very helpful to other editors out there.
Bins don’t really exist in many people’s editing worlds. Personally, I make stringouts of all of my material to start and then use those stringouts to do all searches. It’s a very efficient system overall and it eliminates the need to organize or tag material.
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Oliver Peters
June 9, 2017 at 12:55 am[greg janza] “It’s a very efficient system overall and it eliminates the need to organize or tag material”
I think that’s been Simon’s point all along.
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Steve Connor
June 9, 2017 at 1:37 am[greg janza] “I make stringouts of all of my material to start and then use those stringouts to do all searches. It’s a very efficient system overall and it eliminates the need to organize or tag material.
“Using the skimmer in the Browser in FCPX is exactly the same as having a stringout of ALL your material. I rarely tag or organise material in FCPX as it’s so quick to access all of the rushes
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Oliver Peters
June 9, 2017 at 12:30 pm[Steve Connor] “Using the skimmer in the Browser in FCPX is exactly the same as having a stringout of ALL your material.”
I don’t believe that Simon would agree with you based on his arguments. I too feel that stringouts are faster. I would add that X’s magnetic timeline actually plays well using stringouts.
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Tony West
June 9, 2017 at 1:04 pm[Oliver Peters] “[greg janza] “It’s a very efficient system overall and it eliminates the need to organize or tag material”
I think that’s been Simon’s point all along.”
Was it? I seem to remember a post by Simone that was all about organizing through one smart collection. So now no, organizing ?
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Oliver Peters
June 9, 2017 at 2:15 pm[Tony West] “Was it? I seem to remember a post by Simone that was all about organizing through one smart collection. So now no, organizing ?”
I don’t think that was necessarily related to editing style. More about making the events/bins/collections go away completely, but still using FCPX’s strengths to find things. For reference, here are the links:
https://library.creativecow.net/ubsdell_simon/fcpx_smart_collection/1
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/89092
https://fcpxpert.net/2016/05/14/guest-post-one-smart-collection-to-rule-them-all/
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David Lawrence
June 9, 2017 at 2:17 pm[Oliver Peters] “I don’t believe that Simon would agree with you based on his arguments. I too feel that stringouts are faster. I would add that X’s magnetic timeline actually plays well using stringouts.”
Agreed. I think this is because timeline string outs have an added benefit of spatial information that isn’t available in the browser. I still wish FCPX would allow multiple primaries.
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Oliver Peters
June 9, 2017 at 2:40 pm[David Lawrence] “I still wish FCPX would allow multiple primaries.”
I also find FCPX’s timeline history to be a very weak substitute for FCP7’s and Premiere’s tabbed timelines or ability to have multiple open timeline windows (with or without stacking). The use of stringouts is aided by the ability to edit between sequences. Harder to do that when cut & paste is your main option.
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