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[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Charlie Austin] “If you need to slip (sync) audio you just need to detach it from the picture and it works like any other NLE.”

is that the full detach break where you lose all sync information?

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Eric Santiago]

[Trevor Asquerthian] “22-26 year olds can edit with what they like – but currently they’ll need to know Avid if they want to earn much of a living working directly for broadcasters in the UK. Or LA or NY or CT for that matter.”

You would think but its a very BIG world out there so I wouldnt think thats the norm.

Sure Im in Canada and I dont count but we all have to make a living 🙂

[Bret Williams]

20 years I’ve been a non-linear editor. I spent about 3 using Avid. ’98-2001. But at the same time I was using media 100, FCP, Sphere, and even editDV.

[Neil Sadwelkar]

I find this really quaint, when people on this forum discuss what happens in the UK and US as something that’s universal. Do you guys have any idea how small, even minuscule, your numbers are? The whole of the USA is a small fraction of the world, in terms of population. And the UK is even smaller.

For instance, here in India, over a thousand feature films get released. Most are very trashy, but they still need editing systems (and editors) to edit them, since it doesn’t quite come out the cameras ready for theatres.

Then there’s TV. Even trashier, almost nauseating. But over 300 TV channels sending out 24 hour programming in over 25 different languages. Lots of editing systems needed there too.

Through the 00’s Apple India ran many a program to ensure that Avid almost got wiped out. When X was introduced 2 years ago, Apple India dithered around and did nearly nothing to promote it.

Adobe India thought if they got the top broadcasters here to adopt Premiere, the rest will follow. Just like Avid smugly did in the 00’s. We know how that went. Let’s see how this goes.

Meanwhile, more and more individuals – people who make movies for the ‘net and for TV, are adopting FCPX. it supports most cameras natively, any newbie can edit with it. Young people just take to X, if only to rebel against us old foggies who swear by Avid. And admittedly, once they get hooked to FCP X, its hard to tell a 20 something gal/guy that Avid is a superior system. Heck, its hard to even explain how Avid works.

And we have a neighbouring country called China. They have even more people and hence (probably) more editors. Someone at Discreet told me a long time ago that there were more Smokes in China than the rest of the world put together.

So guys, sure, go ahead and report what’s happening on your island, but don’t make it sound like the world is your island.

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FCP Editor, Edit systems consultant
Mumbai India

[Charlie Austin]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “is that the full detach break where you lose all sync information?”

If you want to slip it, yes. But if you want to slip it, it was either out of sync to begin with, or you’re detaching it to cheat some dialog or something thus knocking it of sync on purpose right? Otherwise, there’s no reason to ever detach it.

Actually the lack of “sync markers” was something I missed for a while. But the thing is – and I’m honestly not being glib or a fan boy here – I’ve realized you don’t really need them. In FCP 7 or Pr etc, you do need them because, although you can link tracks to video, A/V are always separate entities, which despite ones best efforts can accidentally get knocked out of sync.

With audio components in X, you never lose sync unless you explicitly want to. In which case, I guess, you’re supposed to know what you’re doing. But you can’t accidentally knock audio out of sync when it is, literally, attached to the picture.

I’ll detach audio only if I’m going to cheat something (and purposefully knock it out of sync), or use it under b-roll type picture that it’s not in sync with anyway. And If I cheat a line or something, I’ll just re-attach to the pix by creating a compound clip which I can use as a source and manipulate just like any other A/V clip.

Otherwise, every bit of sync audio (generally multichannel split sources in my case) is always in sync, and available to be enabled or disabled as I need it.

Sorry for the rant. 😉 X can definitely be annoying at times, but the stuff people (who often don’t really use it) obsess about – like this, like the magnetic timeline in general – are the least of it’s problems. Hell, they’re the best parts of it. 😉

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[Steve Connor]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “I await a conscious uncoupling of audio elements to allow me to slip them separate from the video.
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Classic

Steve Connor

FCP X – it ain’t going away!

[Timothy Auld]

I do a bit of doc work and also a five camera TV show. In both cases I do a lot of compressing statements (or creating statements with spare parts) via audio editing, but it is particularly important to me that the relationship between the video and the audio of a given clip is always maintained. I am not saying that FCP X cannot accomplish virtually any editorial task in some way. I’m just saying that I can accomplish what I need to faster and more efficiently with other NLE’s at present. I think they are probably instances where it would be faster and more efficient. A multicamera music piece with a set audio track that doesn’t not need editing would be a good example. But for most of what I do the grass in greener elsewhere.

Tim

[Jari Innanen]

[Jeremy Garchow] “Also, not being able to slip audio separate from video is a pain, especially if that clip is a connected clip.”

You can easily slip audio separately with “Open in Timeline”-command.

[Charlie Austin]

[Jari Innanen] “You can easily slip audio separately with “Open in Timeline”-command.”

Absolutely. To be fair, it is a bit of a pain to have to leave the “working” timeline for that, but it’s quite easy.

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[Jeremy Garchow]

All I’m saying, it’d be great to slip components in the timeline without all the extra work.

I don’t necessarily need sync markers.

Many editors would use this feature, I’m sure.