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Is there a winner here between Canon and RED?
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Thanks for the heads up (or should it be ears up?) David.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Supposedly the fixed Scarlet couldn’t hold focus so they had to scrap it. They lost all the development money.”
That’s a shame. I was soooooo looking forward to that camera. Was wondering what the story was.
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” Supposedly the fixed Scarlet couldn’t hold focus so they had to scrap it. They lost all the development money.”
I’m sure they’re crying for another reason, please as well. They would have sold a lot more units at 6-8k than at 20k. The new Scarlet is still a pretty sweet deal if it fits one’s production parameters.
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It’s not that easy. F3 cant handle canon glass, for one reason.
[David Roth Weiss] “I honestly can’t imagine why anyone would pick either camera over a Sony F3.”
XDCam might not be a best for some.
As far as I’m concerned, f3 and c300 record similar codecs.
8 bit, Rafa.
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[David Roth Weiss] “I honestly can’t imagine why anyone would pick either camera over a Sony F3.
“I can…
Firstly, Electronic EF mount, not a dumb mount like on the F3. Being able to properly use my L series lenses is a big deal, a very big deal. You can even use AF on Scarlet but not on the C300…
DSMC. I shoot stills and video. Like DSLRs, I only need one system to do that with Scarlet.
Swappable mounts. Being a able to swap from EF to PL mount in a couple of minutes is also very attractive.
Affordable 4K projection is coming soon. Affordable 4k monitors are coming soon. 1080p won’t cut it…
RAW workflow offers unparalleled versatility.
It’s also a good choice for anyone wanting to build a system that takes advantage of the same accessories as Epic – buy Scarlet, rent Epic is a very good way to go for many people. Try shooting 300 frames per second on that F3…
That said, the F3 supports fast workflows and is a great camera for 1080p. I may still buy one. I’m not convinced by the Canon even though it has a BBC approved codec, but I guess they had to let their video engineers release it before the photographic R&D team clean-up with the release of the 5DmkIII or whatever EOS Cinema moniker they decide to give it.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Supposedly the fixed Scarlet couldn’t hold focus so they had to scrap it. They lost all the development money.”
Then again, this person makes some interesting, if hard to dismiss, points.
https://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?66022-Don-t-piss-down-my-back-and-tell-me-it-s-raining.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “XDCam might not be a best for some.
As far as I’m concerned, f3 and c300 record similar codecs.
8 bit, Rafa.”
Right Jeremy but said “because the SDI out”: Dual-link Uncompressed 10bRGB-4444 which now is possible to record in the GEMINI 4.4.4 (DPX).
https://www.convergent-design.com/Products/Gemini444/tabid/1870/Default.aspx[Liam Hall] “Try shooting 300 frames per second on that F3…
That said, the F3 supports fast workflows and is a great camera for 1080p.”
David was talking about standard HD.
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[Rafael Amador] “[Liam Hall] “Try shooting 300 frames per second on that F3…
That said, the F3 supports fast workflows and is a great camera for 1080p.”
David was talking about standard HD.
rafael
“I’m not not sure what point you are making??
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I missed your earlier comment Rafael…
[Rafael Amador] “To work with a picture bigger than the delivery size just complicates things and the only thing that justify that is the possibilities to zoom/pan or reframe.
I don’t know AVID and PP, but at least in FCP/FCPX there is not any decent downscaling tool.
I keep using SHAKE just for downscaling.”There are other benefits; stabilizing footage, better keying, ability to export high resolution stills to name a few.
To downscale with ease just use REDCineX.
Yes, RED is overkill for many productions and it can add an additional layer of complexity, but I grew up in the film world, so it’s nothing unusual when ultimate quality is your goal. For faster workflows there are better solutions, no doubt about that.
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[Liam Hall] “I’m not not sure what point you are making??”
The point is that when david wrote :
“I honestly can’t imagine why anyone would pick either camera over a Sony F3.
hi was replaying me about shooting plain HD (1080i50/60,p24/25… etc).
I’m sure David wouldn’t try to shot 300fps or 4K with an F3.[Liam Hall] “That said, the F3 supports fast workflows and is a great camera for 1080p”
Right that.
rafael
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