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Is there a winner here between Canon and RED?
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There are three clear winners; Mastercard, American Express and Visa.
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[Thomas Frank] “I don’t know the 14 thousand canon Red scarlet x kit sure does beat the 16 thousand Canon EOS C300.
Gives me 2k extra for another lens. But that’s my opinion..”Certainly.
But that kit gets you a camera with no viewfinder (but LCD), and 20ish minutes of 4k, and half that if using HDRx, so 10ish minutes. If you shoot 10 minutes a day, you’re all good!
As soon as you buy another SSD card and a viewfinder ($3200 for that alone), you will see the price is a wash, or very similar, if not more.
The $14k Kit is just a bare minimum starting point. You’ll be in for $20k+ in no time if you need to take this in a real shoot and not hobby shoots.
https://www.red.com/store/displays
https://www.red.com/store/media
That’s my opinion. For perspective, what cameras have you purchased before? Just curious.
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[Liam Hall] “There are three clear winners; Mastercard, American Express and Visa.”
Ha! Clearly.
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Scarlet is 20k+ for most uses.
The batteries in the 14k package are for the hand grip. Two of them are not going to last a day’s shooting unless it’s very light. Then add glass.
The canon’s price, when I saw it caused me chuckles galore. But then I was expecting a few hours later to hear about a 3k fixed lens Scarlet for less than 10k. Red’s announcement just caused me disappointment. It’s a completely different form factor.
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[David Cherniack] “But then I was expecting a few hours later to hear about a 3k fixed lens Scarlet for less than 10k. Red’s announcement just caused me disappointment. It’s a completely different form factor.”
Supposedly the fixed Scarlet couldn’t hold focus so they had to scrap it. They lost all the development money.
For the DSLR crowd that’s looking for the next step up, both cameras seem like they will deliver.
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I don’t think I’ve seen this link posted
Compares Scarlet to C300
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[Craig Seeman] “I don’t think I’ve seen this link posted
Compares Scarlet to C300
https://cinegearblog.com/red-scarlet-x-vs-canon-eos-c300/“After seen this, i think they are cameras for very different kind of needs.
I wouldn’t compare the Canon with the RScarlet, but with the SONY F3.The Scarlet makes sense if you need to shot something different than standard HD.
But to shot HD I think I wouldn’t go to the Canon, but to the F3 because the SDI out options.
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[Rafael Amador] “I wouldn’t go to the Canon, but to the F3 because the SDI out options.”
I honestly can’t imagine why anyone would pick either camera over a Sony F3.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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The Scarlet looks like a poor man’s Epic, rather than the form factor originally touted. The Canon seems overpriced but at least the ergonomics and functionality are better than the DSLRs.
I have a project coming up which is Sony F3 with Samurai recorder straight to ProRes422. Very much looking forward to the pictures and feedback from the DP. Workflow seems a breeze. It is a broadcast feature doc but with limited theatrical release as a 2K file.
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[Michael Gissing] “I have a project coming up which is Sony F3 with Samurai recorder straight to ProRes422.”
I’ve actually been doing lots of location audio work over the last few months, after a twenty-something year layoff, and virtually all the work has been with the F3, recording to the AJA KiPro.
Just be sure to read the Sony Manual about the various menu settings related to controlling the audio inputs on the camera. There are some gotchas in there, particularly the “Audio Trim,” which has caused some clipping for some of my colleagues, though thankfully not for me. So, do beware.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new Creative Cow Podcast: Bringing “The Whale” to the Big Screen:
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Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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