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Final Cut Pro X Pro Users Only??
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Has anyone else noticed that Apple has skipped 2 versions of Final Cut and jumped from FCP 7 to FCP X (10)?
Can you really trust a company that can’t do math right?
Steve Cohen
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[David Battistella ]Step back. Look at the large picture of an application that needs to do MUCH more than the four walls around your “facility”.
Shit on apple all you want and go AVID or premiere, but it would be a mistake.
I think you have mistaken my criticism of Final Cut Pro X, its not about it as an editorial tool, its more about it as a STUDIO APP and APPLE TEASING people to embrace its STUDIO capabilities. A finishing tool Final Cut Pro X is NOT. Yes I will probably use it everyday when it comes out, but their are no finishing features integrated into this program. That is why I am disapointed. I was a SHAKE Power user as well as an APPLE COLOR power user, those where future tools for Final Cut Studio, not nesting.
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[Alexander Higgins] “but their are no finishing features integrated into this program”
REALLY? Have you been beta testing?
-Jason
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[Steve Cohen] “Has anyone else noticed that Apple has skipped 2 versions of Final Cut and jumped from FCP 7 to FCP X (10)?
Can you really trust a company that can’t do math right?”
They’re counting the two versions they SHOULD have had between then and now.
Jason Jenkins
Flowmotion Media
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What made FCP 1-7 great was the easy to use timeline. FCP copied Avid but made it much easier to move clips around, to trim in the timeline and was visually easy to look at. In the pressure to create something new and different, it seems Apple decided to re-invent the wheel.
The way the NLE works in the timeline is the heart of the program. If that changes, you’ve got a whole new program. From what I see, FCP X is a new application that is entirely different from the previous versions.I wish they could’ve added all the new great features, change the GUI, the size of the buttons (things are too small in FCP classic) without messing with the timeline feel and functionality. I’m sure a lot of others feel the same way. This is what made FCP great to use.
Maybe FCP X will be just as good or even better to use when you sit down in front of it. Though why fix something that isn’t broke and substitute one good thing for another? Hopefully any editor who has used FCP 1-7 will be able to have the same great intuitive experience with FCP X.
Apple, hopefully there is a way to be able to work in the timeline in ‘classic mode’ for FCP X.
I’m sure Apple is listening – send feedback through their website if there is something that doesn’t appeal to you in FCP X.
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[Gabe Thorburn] “What made FCP 1-7 great was the easy to use timeline. FCP copied Avid”
Nope, FCP copied Discreet Edit*.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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[Matthew Sonnenfeld] “I just don’t like the feeling that hundreds of dollars worth of software isn’t MINE, on my bookshelf, always there when/if I need it.”
I’m really concerned about this aspect as well. The app store scares me, and so does purchasing anything that exists only in digital form. When something happen I want a tangible backup i can pull from. Also app store downloading for FCP creates a real problem for me since I like to rebuild out edit suits from the ground up every 6 months to a year. I’ve got Disc images of all my install discs so it goes pretty quick. Only having access to the software via the app store makes me think it won’t be possible to scartch a drive and reinstall the app.
[Neil Hurwitz] “1.There is no resale value for FCP software, when you bought it
it was an expense not an investment
2. You have the option of staying just as you are
3.Switching to Avid is going to cost you more
So Suck it up, don’t worry about your INVESTMENT (not)
You blew the money the second you bought it
Buying software is not like buying a FDIC insured CD
YOU ARE IN BUSINESS, SUCK IT UP
JEEZ”You’re totally wrong. Purchasing FCP, while being an expense, it’s also an investment. Unless your FCP use is purely recreation, it’s an investment. You invested your money in this Set of software so that you could make your living off of it. FCP is generating returns for you if you are making money off of the work you do in it. People are mostly up in arms because it looks like everything has changed. This means it’s going to take everyone (who chooses to stick it out with FCPX) several months to create new workflows and figure out how best to utilize the new infrastructure. Most people adhere to an “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” model of editing. Once you’ve streamlined your workflow, you stick with hit and make minor adjustments as you go. Seemingly this is a whole new little beast. People are not looking foreward to having to relearn and rework things that weren’t broken for them in the first place.
The real bottom line though is, if you don’t like the changes…don’t adopt the software. I remember not too long ago seeing several big edit shops in NYC running Avid on Mac OS 9. That worked for them and they continued to use it as long as it worked. You don’t NEED to upgrade, but if the new changes are things that will increase your productivity, by all means…upgrade. If not…keep using your well oiled edit machine and keep making money off of it.
-mattyc
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Come on. They all have Insert/Overrecord as modes. FCP doesn’t.
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[David Roth Weiss] “Nope, FCP copied Discreet Edit*.”
Good point..but I’m pretty sure his emphasis was on the Copied….not on the Avid.
-mattyc
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[Matt Callac] “m pretty sure his emphasis was on the Copied….not on the Avid.”
Yes Matt, but as I like to say from time to time on the Cow, we are in a business of precision.
And, how would you feel if someone plagiarized your work and gave credit to someone else for the inspiration?
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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