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FCPX or Not…
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[Craig Seeman] “Assertions like that kill any kind of intelligent discussion.”
So does a dogged obsession with broad definitions of “professional,” especially when the contextual meaning can be ferreted out by most casual observers.
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[Craig Seeman] ” know of one in the Netherlands but he refuses to participate in these discussions.
Alban Egger has said he has.
Tony West, Mark Morache also.
“So, when you say “broadcaster,” you mean a few people delivering to broadcast, and not what the term traditionally means–NBC, CBS, ITV, PBS, etc.?
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[Chris Harlan] “So, when you say “broadcaster,” you mean a few people delivering to broadcast, and not what the term traditionally means–NBC, CBS, ITV, PBS, etc.?”
I believe there is one broadcaster in the Netherlands that moved to FCPX (so he’s told me). I’d love to see about interviewing them. As much as I like FCPX I still see some significant facility level issues so I’m curious about this is as well. You’d think Apple would be all over them for promotional purposes.
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[CRAIG SEEMAN) “I believe there is one broadcaster in the Netherlands that moved to FCPX (so he’s told me)”
Who are we kidding?
I know a guy, who knows a guy who thinks he knows another guy who’s using it for broadcast?
Seriously?
FCP7 had hundreds of broadcast and film facilities – documented (maybe 1000’s….I know a guy who thinks that’s true )
FCPX developers – nearly a year after release have exactly….hmm we don’t know for sure of anyone using it for broadcast full time.
People who edit full time need a rock solid and not “we think it will get there one day” editing system.
FCP 7 was it.
Avid is it.
Conan’s editors clearly think Premiere Pro 6 is it if ..even before it’s released…they’re already cutting with it for BROADCAST.
Yet FCP X can find no love in everyday Hollywood or broadcast.
Still the folks who like it (and good for you…it works for you) continue to twist themselves into pretzels cheer leading a product that high end broadcast and film editors still can’t trust to do what they need. No mixer, no tracks, third party vendors forced to risk their businesses filling in gaping holes that weren’t there in the previous version of the software.
I admire the endless optimism of folks who have no problem paying for the privilege to continue this, now nearly year long, beta testing program for Apple.
Andy Field
FieldVision Productions
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LOL!
So “many professional and broadcast environments” translates to “I heard of a guy in the Netherlands that doesn’t want to be interviewed”?
That’s SERIOUSLY laughable…
As the movie Spaceballs put so eloquently…
“I’m your father’s, brother’s, cousin’s, best friend’s, room mate”.
“So what does that make us?”
“Absolutely nothing.”
FCP 1.0 – FCPS
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I talked about Playoff Baseball last season on here Craig at the time when we used it.
I talked about how many people watch Major league post season sports.
It’s not really gonna matter to some folks.
I don’t really care either. When I’m on the job I’m not even thinking about what somebody I don’t know likes or doesn’t like. I’m just doing MY job.
Our people in St. Louis dominate major sports as a percentage like no other city. You can’t look at the Super Bowl, World Series Final Four or any other major sporting event without seeing the work of some of our people.
Our director directs the Stanley Cup
X is moving into sports because it works well there.
On another subject, these companies that make third party programs are making them for X, Avid and PPr
They would be stupid to leave out X because of the sheer volume of people using the product.
To me it’s simple business 101
Companies are going to make plug-ins for X and design programs for it because there is a lot of money to be made in doing so.
Even if Apple stood still (which they won’t) other people are making the product better every month because they make money by doing that.
There are things that X can do and can’t do.
The what it can do out ways the what it can’t do for me.
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Talk about “you’ve got to be kidding”
At 9 months FCPX is probably further along in the professional market than FCP1 was.
I’m not comparing it mature apps that have been in release for years if not decades.
FCPX is maturing quickly. Yes it’s being used in broadcast. Yes I know of one broadcast facility using it as their NLE of choice. -
[Craig Seeman] “At 9 months FCPX is probably further along in the professional market than FCP1 was. I’m not comparing it mature apps that have been in release for years if not decades.”
Why not compare FCPX to mature apps? The market must. FCPX is not competing against FCP1. It’s competing against PrP CS5.5, MC6, and FCP7.
FCPX wins big in some workflows but loses big in others. FCPX is still the exception rather than the rule in broadcast. Doesn’t that make both Tony West and Andy Field correct?
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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That’s the best explanation I’ve seen so far. Nailed it.
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But have you actually done any cutting in X?
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