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  • David Cherniack

    March 19, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    [David Cherniack] “It can include everything from features to YouTube, depending on the complexity, creativity, and production values”

    That’s enough for me, and I suspect, most high end users. If you wish to try and define it more specifically, please don’t let me stand in your way. While you’re doing that consider that my aunt Mary makes money selling knitting videos that she shoots on a phone and edits with Movie Maker. Is she professional. You bet.

    David
    AllinOneFilms.com

  • Craig Seeman

    March 19, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    [David Cherniack] “That’s enough for me, and I suspect, most high end users.”

    You mean like the broadcasters using FCPX?

    If it’s “enough” for you, you’ve certainly limited discussions to yourself or only those who somehow know your unspoken definition, to the exclusion of others who are “high end” users.

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    March 19, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “It’s already being used in many professional environments including broadcast. “

    hey craig, would you maybe be able to give a few examples?

    http://www.ogallchoir.net
    promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Craig Seeman

    March 19, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    I know of one in the Netherlands but he refuses to participate in these discussions.
    Alban Egger has said he has.
    Tony West, Mark Morache also.

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    March 19, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    not at all looking to over-press the point Craig – but in the US say, outside of the people here posting, and, to be fair, mark morache is pretty ambivalent at this point… but in terms of ‘many professional environments’ type thing, do you have particular facilities houses, broadcast departments, production companies type stuff in your head?

    I know there was that guy who gave the talk and said he was moving his facility to FCPX – but he’s been a bit quiet lately? forget the name, as usual…

    http://www.ogallchoir.net
    promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • David Cherniack

    March 19, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “If it’s “enough” for you, you’ve certainly limited discussions to yourself or only those who somehow know your unspoken definition, to the exclusion of others who are “high end” users.”

    No, not to most high end users, I suspect, but you’ve obviously excluded yourself. So really there’s no more point to belabour, is there.

    David
    AllinOneFilms.com

  • Craig Seeman

    March 19, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “I know there was that guy who gave the talk and said he was moving his facility to FCPX – but he’s been a bit quiet lately? forget the name, as usual…”

    Evan Schechtman at OutPost Digital. I haven’t heard much from him anywhere about anything lately. Apparently he’ll be at NAB.
    https://www.mewshop.com/news/2012/feb/28/mewshop-editlounge-nab-2012/
    It’ll be interesting to see where he is.
    Last thing I saw that including him regarding FCPX was his mentioning his move to it in some of the coverage of the 10.0.3 release.

  • Richard Herd

    March 19, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    The actual job of cutting pic is very awesome.

  • David Lawrence

    March 20, 2012 at 12:26 am

    [Jim Giberti] “My frustration with Apple is specifically because I have a hard time balancing the “professional” aspects and the “severe limitations” in day to day use.”

    Seems to me, the reason these discussions about whether FCPX is “professional” or not keep getting bogged down is because they mix up two very different “professional” needs:

    1) technical
    2) workflow

    FCPX incorporates many high-end technical specs. 4K playback, broadcast monitoring, multi-cam, etc. are all features that exceed the needs of typical consumers.

    In terms of specs, FCPX is clearly “professional”.

    On the other hand, FCPX’s workflow flexibility is currently very limited. The timeline model is rigid and incompatible with every other professional system on the market. The audio UI feels like an afterthought at best. Exchange with other programs is improving thru 3rd party tools but there are still many holes.

    In terms of workflow, FCPX is has a long way to go before it can call itself “professional” in terms of collaborative workflow and industry standards.

    This to me is the crux of why FCPX seems so ambivalent — it wraps high-end professional technical specs in an oversimplified package that doesn’t give advanced editors the control and flexibility they need to do their jobs.

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  • Sandy Shapiro

    March 20, 2012 at 12:47 am

    Avid still trumps imovie2. Maybe it’ll catch up in a couple years and I am interest in it’s future. Just wanted to get a discussion going and its been informative hearing everyones opinions.

    Honestly, I wouldn’t even cut sound bites in FCPX; not where it is now. Good to hear it works for the Seaman though as I do own Apple stock and like to hear its selling.

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