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DaVinci Resolve 8.1 — now with FCPXML roundtrip support
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Haters and everyone else-
And when I say haters, you know I say it with love, right?
Everyone else, HIGH FIVEEE!
What do you think about this? Check out the XML work done here with Resolve (second movie):
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/277/11024
FCPX sequence to DaVinci to FCP7 to DaVinci to FCPX.
Jeremy
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While this is really great news, Resolve ain’t exactly cheap. With all the plugins and other programs (future and present) that will be needed to restore FCPX to the functionality of legacy FCP, I have a feeling the price tag is going to far exceed the price Final Cut Studio. Da Vinchi Resolve alone costs more than what I paid for my copy FCS3 (and actually even more than the 1/2 price deal I got on Adobe Production Suite).
This may not be a big deal far large production houses with deep pockets, but for an independent operator guy like myself (who went to a lot of trouble learning the complex, definitely non-user friendly Color), I have a sinking feeling the modular FCPX model is going to be very expensive indeed.
I hope this isn’t true — but it looks that way to me.
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[Clint Wardlow] “Resolve ain’t exactly cheap.”
Funny, they have a free version. I don’t think they will pay you for it though, so I think free is about as cheap as it’s going to get.
[Clint Wardlow] “This may not be a big deal far large production houses with deep pockets, but for an independent operator guy like myself (who went to a lot of trouble learning the complex, definitely non-user friendly Color), I have a sinking feeling the modular FCPX model is going to be very expensive indeed.”
Well, with “DaVinci Free”, you can go to Color via XML. How’s that for some irony?
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Does the iPhone come with Angry Birds?”
No, it comes with Angry Editors.
And maybe my analogy wasn’t the best, but if I couldn’t bring in my old aps, or my old contact list, or calendar, it would be worse than annoying. If Adobe made a new Photoshop that couldn’t open old psd files, there would be just as strong a revolt.
Personally, I’m keeping FCP7 around for as long as I can for those times I need to retool an old project. It would be nice to be able to use the new tools with the legacy work.
Is Apple unfairly taking bad heat for all of this? Are editors prematurely leaving Apple for Avid and Adobe? Can they afford to keep using FCS3 for the next several years until FCX gets back the missing tools?
FCX is working for me, but barely. I’m still hitting bugs, workarounds and slow-downs.
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FCX. She tempts me, abuses me, beats me up, makes me feel worthless, then in the end she comes around, helps me get my work done, gives me hope and I can’t stop thinking about her.Mark Morache
Avid/Xpri/FCP7/FCX
Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
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Actually I was unaware of Resolve Lite. I’ll download it and give it a test run. Hopefully it will contain enough power for my meager needs. The restriction to only two nodes in the comp window is a bit of a drawback, however if it offers good curve grading (what I mostly use, having first mastered curves in photoshop) I will be a happy camper. If nothing else, thanks for pointing me to it, even if it only somewhat assuages my fears that the modular FCPX design isn’t going to be cheap. Will Resolve Lite support FCPXML?
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[Clint Wardlow] “Will Resolve Lite support FCPXML?”
That’s the first thing that came to my mind when a friend just mentioned this to me.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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[Clint Wardlow] ” Will Resolve Lite support FCPXML?”
The new 8.1 will. Yep!
It does have curves as well. Too bad it doesn’t work with AJA cards.
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[Mark Morache] “Is Apple unfairly taking bad heat for all of this? Are editors prematurely leaving Apple for Avid and Adobe? Can they afford to keep using FCS3 for the next several years until FCX gets back the missing tools?”
Definitely not unfair heat. It was certainly a conscious decision.
I have no idea if people are being premature or not. It’s up to them.
A couple of years seems like a long time. Do you really think it will take two years for OMF Export when you can do it today with a bit of a kludge?
Jeremy
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Too bad it doesn’t work with AJA cards.”
Or properly support dual monitor layouts or resolutions below 1920×1080. Or refrain from writing SQL crap all over your hard drive. I know Color is dead, but playing with Resolve reminds you of how good Color was and would have been if Apple had actually put any effort behind it. Oh well…
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Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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Very excited for you Jeremy.
Just a couple of questions.
1. Why are those who disagree with FCP X as a viable product called “haters” when those who support it as excitedly as you do aren’t called “the interminably undaunted?” Hater rolls off the tongue though, doesn’t it. Heh. I love the word “hater.” It represents someone who is so . . . hard to control.
2. Why are you excited by Resolve’s ’round-tripping’ with XML? The whole point has been to get a product that supports basic broadcast workflows. These involve support for accurate picture monitoring and for the ability to send video and audio out for other specialists. Just getting one of those features doesn’t mean the bird is ready to fly. I guess it is exciting to get some progress though.
For most of us “haters”, audio is still considered something of great importance. Too bad its completely stripped out of the XML project file when going into Resolve. And once it’s stripped, I don’t see how it gets put back in.
Perhaps I’m missing something. I’ve searched the manual. I’ve searched the update notes. Sadly, it seems to be missing. I’m sure there’s a work around brewing though. It wouldn’t be FCP X if it wasn’t. Roles anyone?
Or are silent movies part of the new paradigm? Just kidding, Jeremy – you know I love to tweak.
Ah, well. Logic X is going to solve this, right? Lets hope Apple maintains control of at least one critical feature.
“Bang up job so far, Agent Kujan.”Geesh, I sound so “hater” -ish. I guess I “hate” waiting for basic functionality while watching what looks from the distance like a fire-dance.
In other news, Resolve is kicking ass with Media Composer 6 beta – lots of excitement there. And they’re supporting more features, too, including PTZR (pan, zoom, tilt, rotate.) I’m sure they’ll eventually get around to supporting more features with FCP (once the din dies down – unless there’s not much demand for it, of course.)
And Resolve will be available on cheaper hardware that supports cards with more CUDA cores!
Yes, this little 3rd party developer is really opening the door back to Windows.Gotta love these 3rd party developers. No loyalty – just going where the market is.
See? We’re not all “hate”. 😉
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