DaVinci Resolve 8.1 — now with FCPXML roundtrip support

[Craig Seeman]

Jeremy, if FCPX eventually delivered breakfast in bed they’d complain it was over easy and not sunny side up.

[Derek Andonian]

Wait- Resolve now supports FCPXML? Even the FREE version?? Those funny cat videos on Vimeo are going to look AMAZING!!!!

(sorry, couldn’t resist that one…)

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“THAT’S our fail-safe point. Up until here, we still have enough track to stop the locomotive before it plunges into the ravine… But after this windmill it’s the future or bust.”

[Kim Krause]

i have to agree with you…when it comes to ease of use and just pure and simple logic color is still the winner. i have been playing with resolve and its nice to see it copying so many of the features that color has always had. however i still think its way to complicated just to open a project and actually get going. you have to set the media directory ( why can’t you just select it when you open a new project) and you have to tell it where to render and what to render as. color was so simple…pro res in-pro res out…every project links back to the original fcp job…bloody simple. i really hope davinci bets it together in this regard because the actually grading tools aren’t bad at all…even though i would make some of the windows either sizable or moveable so you could have a more logical workspace…..that tiny 2 way controller down in the lower left hand of the screen is a joke. it’s one of the main tools i use and it should be more prominent…and some short cuts to the frame store and easier tracking would be nice…..not complaining, just comparing!

[Oliver Peters]

[Glen Hurd] “1. Why are those who disagree with FCP X as a viable product called “haters” when those who support it as excitedly as you do aren’t called “the interminably undaunted?””

The irony is that most of us who aren’t happy with FCP X are complaining in context to FCP 7 – NOT other NLEs. If you took the improved performance of FCP X and some of the asthetic changes and revamped FCP 7 with these features – the result would blow the doors off of FCP X in its current and probably future form.

Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[Herb Sevush]

“they’d complain it was over easy and not sunny side up.”

When I say over-easy it means you flip the dammed eggs, how hard is that to understand. And what’s this, no bacon, you don’t serve bacon anymore, not even a little sausage, nothing – what kind of half-assed breakfast is this? Even Micky Ds gives you a sausage. And can’t you even translate a pancake properly for god’s sake – I wanted blueberry syrup, not strawberry. I’m leaving, this hotel ain’t shit no more, ever since the owner died the whole place has gone to shit, only interested in the economy tourist, no real service for the experienced traveler.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Glen Hurd] “Very excited for you Jeremy.”

Thanks, Glen. How nice of you to be excited for once.

[Glen Hurd] “1. Why are those who disagree with FCP X as a viable product called “haters” when those who support it as excitedly as you do aren’t called “the interminably undaunted?” Hater rolls off the tongue though, doesn’t it. Heh. I love the word “hater.” It represents someone who is so . . . hard to control.”

I thought the people who like FCPX are called dumbed down newbie skateboarders that don’t know what a sequence is?

[Glen Hurd] “2. Why are you excited by Resolve’s ’round-tripping’ with XML? The whole point has been to get a product that supports basic broadcast workflows. These involve support for accurate picture monitoring and for the ability to send video and audio out for other specialists. Just getting one of those features doesn’t mean the bird is ready to fly. I guess it is exciting to get some progress though.”

Hell no it’s not ready, but it’s proof of concept. If this works, others will too. It means I stick around for a bit and see what happens. I have said over and over again, I simply can’t use FCPX for paying work yet, but I’d like to.

[Glen Hurd] “For most of us “haters”, audio is still considered something of great importance. Too bad its completely stripped out of the XML project file when going into Resolve. And once it’s stripped, I don’t see how it gets put back in. “

Color would do weird things to audio too. I’d never use the audio from a Color round trip. I’d simply copy and paste the audio from another sequence, or add the final mix from audio post. If you can’t figure out how to get audio back in to a piece, that could be a problem for you.

Also, since FCPX has a really nice stem export, you could do that as well, but whatever no one cares except the interminably undaunted.

[Glen Hurd] “Geesh, I sound so “hater” -ish. I guess I “hate” waiting for basic functionality while watching what looks from the distance like a fire-dance.”

Patience is a virtue.

[Glen Hurd] “In other news, Resolve is kicking ass with Media Composer 6 beta – lots of excitement there. And they’re supporting more features, too, including PTZR (pan, zoom, tilt, rotate.)”

I hope it’s everything you want and more. You are so right, I guess it is exciting to see progress.

And good luck with Windows. Seriously, you’re going to need it.

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Glen Hurd] “Very excited for you Jeremy.”

Thanks, Glen. How nice of you to be excited for once.

[Glen Hurd] “1. Why are those who disagree with FCP X as a viable product called “haters” when those who support it as excitedly as you do aren’t called “the interminably undaunted?” Hater rolls off the tongue though, doesn’t it. Heh. I love the word “hater.” It represents someone who is so . . . hard to control.”

I thought the people who like FCPX are called dumbed down newbie skateboarders that don’t know what a sequence is?

[Glen Hurd] “2. Why are you excited by Resolve’s ’round-tripping’ with XML? The whole point has been to get a product that supports basic broadcast workflows. These involve support for accurate picture monitoring and for the ability to send video and audio out for other specialists. Just getting one of those features doesn’t mean the bird is ready to fly. I guess it is exciting to get some progress though.”

Hell no it’s not ready, but it’s proof of concept. If this works, others will too. It means I stick around for a bit and see what happens. I have said over and over again, I simply can’t use FCPX for paying work yet, but I’d like to start. Maybe after the next update.

[Glen Hurd] “For most of us “haters”, audio is still considered something of great importance. Too bad its completely stripped out of the XML project file when going into Resolve. And once it’s stripped, I don’t see how it gets put back in. “

Color would do weird things to audio too. I’d never use the audio from a Color round trip. I’d simply copy and paste the audio from another sequence, or add the final mix from audio post. If you can’t figure out how to get audio back in to a piece, that could be a problem for you.

Also, since FCPX has a really nice stem export, you could do that as well, but whatever no one cares except the interminably undaunted.

[Glen Hurd] “Geesh, I sound so “hater” -ish. I guess I “hate” waiting for basic functionality while watching what looks from the distance like a fire-dance.”

Patience is a virtue.

[Glen Hurd] “In other news, Resolve is kicking ass with Media Composer 6 beta – lots of excitement there. And they’re supporting more features, too, including PTZR (pan, zoom, tilt, rotate.)”

I hope it’s everything you want and more. You are so right, I guess it is exciting to see progress.

And good luck with Windows. Seriously, you might need a little bit of it.

[Craig Seeman]

[Greg Andonian] “Wait- Resolve now supports FCPXML? Even the FREE version?? Those funny cat videos on Vimeo are going to look AMAZING!!!!”

And those videos will monatize services and those that show mastery of color grading and editing will be getting the jobs.

[Herb Sevush]

“And good luck with Windows. Seriously, you might need a little bit of it.”

Is that your motivation for all these posts Jeremy, scared of taking a walk on the wild side; need to nest in the arms of mother apple’s protective embrace?

Well I’ve been there and it’s not so bad, in fact there’s no real difference one way or the other. So go ahead, take a chance, you might even find something you like.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions

[Craig Seeman]

The third party condiment makers will make a fortune with a broad market who need to add side orders to their breakfast. Assuming Apple matures the SDK/APIs wide support is going to move FCPX up the breakfast ladder. Just as the original was FCP for the rest of us, FCPX may repeat that formula.

Granted “pros” may not like the limited menu selection at the moment but it seems Apple is opening the doors to the accouterments. Resolve is actually an excellent example with both a free version, a $995 version and control surfaces costing thousands of dollars. FCPXML is an important door to the kitchen.

I actually think this is why Automatic Duck may have moved to another kitchen. There’s going to be a lot of price competition in a market in which they were once exclusive.

As utilities such as CatDV and Resolve add FCPXML support and more developers on the way Duck probably needed to hook into a company (Adobe) that needs versatile import export experience.

FCPX may be the breakfast of champions (Sorry I couldn’t help that one).