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  • Simon Ubsdell

    October 21, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “I haven’t played with iMovie much, no and it’s not a rude question. My point about AE and PPro having similar interfaces still stands.”

    I’m afraid we’re not going to get very much further with this conversation if you still think the similarities are of that order. The comparison doesn’t really hold up at all. Please do go and have a proper look at iMovie and tell me if you still think the same way.

    [Jeremy Garchow] “I hope you know, I am not denying what seems to be similar interfaces and methods, but that link that was sent by Steve Conor seems to point out some really major differences between the apps, including the timelines. They don’t even look similar, I just took you at your word.”

    You’ve lost me here – I think Steve Connor’s link pretty much nails the fact that they are fundamentally the same, but then I would think that 😉

    However my point is absolutely nothing to do with whether or not they “look” the same as this is a completely trivial point of comparison and I wouldn’t object to you scoffing at it if it were the only piece of evidence.

    The evidence is all in the details of the functionality – where the similarities are extreme to the point where it just doesn’t make sense to try and separate them.

    Simon Ubsdell
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 21, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    [Simon Ubsdell] “I’m afraid we’re not going to get very much further with this conversation if you still think the similarities are of that order. The comparison doesn’t really hold up at all. Please do go and have a proper look at iMovie and tell me if you still think the same way.”

    Perfect. Then again, as is becoming a trend, we will agree to disagree. Why would I play with iMovie when I can play with the exact same thing in FCPX? I cant even bring in P2 to iMovie. 🙂

  • Craig Seeman

    October 21, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    I’ll join the weird club as well.

    BTW as much as I think some portion of the post industry is “weird” averse, in my travails both online and in person there’s a good number of people who are interested in FCPX and it’s new UI and can foresee using it assuming some things develop further.

  • Simon Ubsdell

    October 21, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “I’ll join the weird club as well.”

    Hey, you know what – I’m weird and I like it too.

    Does that mean I can’t also be critical of some of it? Or does that mean I’m not allowed into the club? 😉

    Simon Ubsdell
    Director/Editor/Writer
    http://www.tokyo-uk.com

  • Craig Seeman

    October 21, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    I think your interest in it is self evidenced in the nifty fx filters you’ve worked on.

    I’m also critical of it. Don’t get me going on dual track mono!

    I think key to the weird club, me thinks, is that, although the trackless magnetic timeline still has room for major improvement, it’s worth improving rather than abandoning.

  • Simon Ubsdell

    October 21, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    [Craig Seeman]
    I think key to the weird club, me thinks, is that, although the trackless magnetic timeline still has room for major improvement, it’s worth improving rather than abandoning.”

    On that basis, sign me up please 😉

    I’ll take a year’s membership – but I might not renew …

    Simon Ubsdell
    Director/Editor/Writer
    http://www.tokyo-uk.com

  • David Lawrence

    October 22, 2011 at 1:02 am

    [Simon Ubsdell] “I’d just like to know the truth of the matter as I think it has interesting ramifications for our understanding of where we are with FCPX and how it came into being in the form that it has – which seem to me to be pretty important questions.”

    I think this is the key point of the comparison.

    The industry was told for about two years that Apple’s Pro Apps team was developing a brand new, completely modern version of FCP. That’s a very different development path than building on a consumer-class application (iMovie) and extending it to have professional features. If that’s what really happened, it would explain a lot.

    My hunch is that there was a fork in FCPX development that coincides with the FCP team layoffs. AppleInsider nailed it in May 2010..

    We know at one point, FCPX had sequences and tracks. And then something changed. I’d love to know the story of what happened. My guess is that a management decision was made to merge Pro Apps with Consumer app development to create more unified product lines.

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Perfect. Then again, as is becoming a trend, we will agree to disagree. Why would I play with iMovie when I can play with the exact same thing in FCPX? I cant even bring in P2 to iMovie. :)”

    iMovie on the Mac is a bag of hurt I wouldn’t wish on anyone. But you should check out iMovie on the iPad because it’s actually very good for what it is. I wouldn’t do a commercial job on it but for just having fun, it’s great.

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