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  • Simon Ubsdell

    October 14, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “I do have vague recollections of Adobe and Avid dropping the Mac platform altogether, yes.”

    The difference is that the Automatic Duck fiasco is what we Brits refer to as an “own goal” 😉

    Simon Ubsdell
    Director/Editor/Writer
    http://www.tokyo-uk.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 14, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    First of all, it’s Friday, lighten up everyone.

    [Simon Ubsdell] “The difference is that the Automatic Duck fiasco is what we Brits refer to as an “own goal” ;-)”

    FCPX gets round trip interchange to a highly useful external program without any third party support, and everyone’s still cranky:

    Jeremy

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 14, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    [David Roth Weiss] “Especially if you own stock in Avid and Adobe.”

    If stock price is how you choose an editing program, Apple sure wins today:

    https://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20120524-17/apple-shares-close-on-new-high-on-iphone-4s-launch-day/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20

    Although, what goes up….

  • Mark Morache

    October 14, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Now apply this to OMF, AAF, XYZ, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS”

    Third party solutions to the rescue. Yes, for many things this makes sense, but when Adobe Premiere can open up FCP7 projects, and FCX can’t, that’s just wrong.

    Not everyone needs OMF, or EDL, but everyone can benefit from the ability to open old projects.

    Apple should own this one. Gee, can they afford to pay a team of coders to do the translation necessary to go between FCX and FCP7? I think so.

    ———
    FCX. She tempts me, abuses me, beats me up, makes me feel worthless, then in the end she comes around, helps me get my work done, gives me hope and I can’t stop thinking about her.

    Mark Morache
    Avid/Xpri/FCP7/FCX
    Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
    https://fcpx.wordpress.com

  • David Roth weiss

    October 14, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    Apple never got round-tripping between FCP and Color completely right anyway.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles
    https://www.drwfilms.com

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  • Kim Krause

    October 14, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    exactly…the fact that davinci is now supported in fcpx means that black magic sees the benefits of the new final cut way of working….would love to hear what the haters think of this…hahahahahahahah

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 14, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    [Mark Morache] “Yes, for many things this makes sense, but when Adobe Premiere can open up FCP7 projects, and FCX can’t, that’s just wrong.”

    It can open an XML variant of the project, not FCProjects. Big difference. CatDV can move FCP7 to FCPX today, with some caveats.

    [Mark Morache] “Not everyone needs OMF, or EDL, but everyone can benefit from the ability to open old projects.”

    Agreed.

    [Mark Morache] Apple should own this one. Gee, can they afford to pay a team of coders to do the translation necessary to go between FCX and FCP7? I think so.”

    I don’t think it’s about the money.

  • Kim Krause

    October 14, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    apple handed black magic their stake in color correction in exchange for davinci support in fcpx….this was determined long ago and that’s why the latest update for resolve took a few extra weeks…..now apple doesn’t have to spend money on development of a product that another company is already offering. and davinci will become the defacto standard for grading as almost anyone with fcpx downloads the lite version of davinci resolve. i am still gonna miss the simplicity of color and the transparent interaction between editing and grading but black magic is doing everything right and i am looking forward to putting my eggs in their basket as soon as the last few wrinkles have been ironed out. and now i can still do work for all those clients that walked away from apple because davinci will work with avid and premiere. thanks to apple i have just increased my potential client base by a factor of 3…..hows that for a positive spin?

  • Mark Morache

    October 14, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “It can open an XML variant of the project, not FCProjects. Big difference. CatDV can move FCP7 to FCPX today, with some caveats.”

    I understand, and I don’t expect everything to translate, however if FCX could open up as much of my FCP7 project as PP can, that would be wonderful.

    [Jeremy Garchow] “I don’t think it’s about the money.”

    Of course not, but what besides desire keeps them from doing it? It could have saved a whole lot of pain for the editing community, and for their own image in that community. And I wouldn’t be happy about spending as much or more as I’m spending for FCX, for the limited translation of CatDV.

    I’m sure someone will develop a cost efficient limited translation between FCP7 and FCX. I expect that the third parties will give us some wonderful tools, but seriously, can’t we agree that Apple should own this one?

    If they sold me the new iPhone, and told me that I had to wait for third party developers to give me the ability to make calls to the people I used to call on my old phone, I’d start looking for another phone.

    ———
    FCX. She tempts me, abuses me, beats me up, makes me feel worthless, then in the end she comes around, helps me get my work done, gives me hope and I can’t stop thinking about her.

    Mark Morache
    Avid/Xpri/FCP7/FCX
    Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
    https://fcpx.wordpress.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 14, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    [Mark Morache] “but seriously, can’t we agree that Apple should own this one?”

    Maybe, maybe not.

    [Mark Morache] “If they sold me the new iPhone, and told me that I had to wait for third party developers to give me the ability to make calls to the people I used to call on my old phone, I’d start looking for another phone.”

    Uh. FCPX can edit video/audio/text can’t it? The iPhone can make a phone call, can’t it?

    Does the iPhone come with Angry Birds? No. It’s separate.

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