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  • Christian Schumacher

    September 3, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    I’ll be -partially- working on one of them by 2014. Again, I hope that Apple isn’t the one kidding.

  • Craig Shields

    September 3, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    I get it. It’s kinda funny initially but who would “get on with their life” after getting that? LOL Anyways, I can certainly laugh at Apple or anyone else but to me it’s kind of silly. That guy is no pro user. That’s for sure.

  • Marcus Moore

    September 3, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    For some people the old design was perfect. For some people the new one will be.

    Personally, I’m excited. The form factor has nothing to do with it.

    Round or square, I do not care!

  • Christian Schumacher

    September 3, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    [Craig Shields] “I get it. It’s kinda funny initially but who would “get on with their life” after getting that? LOL Anyways, I can certainly laugh at Apple or anyone else but to me it’s kind of silly. That guy is no pro user. That’s for sure.”

    OK, right the guy is not a pro user, I bet he doesn’t need that. The story is on people that can be futile, hence the silliness and all. I don’t think these people showing off MacPros are represented here on the forum, I’m sorry if you took that way. But they do exist out there, and ironically, they may be exactly what is needed for the Mac Pro to take off at this point.

  • Marcus Moore

    September 3, 2013 at 7:44 pm

    I don’t know- I think you may be underestimating how thick the “middle” of the pro market is compared to the very very high end people who potentially may find this machine doesn’t meet their needs.

    There are a few shortcomings to the lack of super-fast PCIe ports, but I see those as relatively near-term issues. If TB gets to it’s 100Gb/s threshold- there are no limits to external expandability. This obviously doesn’t solve the problem for those that have a use-case TODAY…

  • Christian Schumacher

    September 3, 2013 at 8:14 pm

    [Marcus Moore] “I don’t know- I think you may be underestimating how thick the “middle” of the pro market is compared to the very very high end people who potentially may find this machine doesn’t meet their needs.”

    Aha! Now you’re getting serious! But no, I’m not. The agency I mentioned earlier which is going to buy one is a fairly small one. I just don’t see that happening in significant scales though. Maybe I’m wrong, and was before because I thought that they would kill the Mac Pro and they didn’t. But my opinion is that if Apple manages to capture a sizable market right at the beginning from its hardcore fanboys they can raise the bar and develop it further with time. (As shown in the short despite its silly way of doing so) Sure, Pro Apps and professionals using it right out of the gate is going to have impact on this as well. But FCPX and Maya are not exactly ubiquity yet.

    [Marcus Moore] “There are a few shortcomings to the lack of super-fast PCIe ports, but I see those as relatively near-term issues. If TB gets to it’s 100Gb/s threshold- there are no limits to external expandability. This obviously doesn’t solve the problem for those that have a use-case TODAY…”

    There’s that, yes big, big issue. But I also struggle to believe that this particular choice for the size is going to be the best at the end. Why does it have to be so tinny? They could have come up with something a little bigger than that. You know? Adding at least some SSD slots for god’s sake.

  • Marcus Moore

    September 3, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    [Christian Schumacher] “There’s that, yes big, big issue. But I also struggle to believe that this particular choice for the size is going to be the best at the end. Why does it have to be so tinny? They could have come up with something a little bigger than that. You know? Adding at least some SSD slots for god’s sake.

    To what end? “Some” storage is either going to be wasted space or not enough, so why not just outbound it all? Any box has confines, and most MacPros I see push beyond theirs, so you have the giant tower PLUS external peripherals anyway…

    The MacPro is the “Brain” of the system in this new paradigm. How you configure it beyond that is up to you. Ultimately it is a much more flexible solution IMHO (‘natch).

  • Christian Schumacher

    September 3, 2013 at 9:01 pm

    [Marcus Moore] “To what end?”

    FCPX Example; I work on a certain rig and it has a 10.0.6 boot drive and another on 10.0.9 with a certain combination of plugins/apps for each of them. And then there’s the cache disks, which are ideally internal for certain applications as you can set them up for the different boot drives. All of this without touching the storage, mind you. There are a lot of users that prefer to manage some drives internally, not just editors, but programmers, designers, researchers. It’s just common sense. I get that you can do that externally even with USB if you want, and with no glitch at all (to boot the OS or point to cache disks) but I’m a tad skeptical.

  • Walter Soyka

    September 3, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    [Bret Williams] “But does it blend?”

    Yes — and because Apple does care about cooking pros, it’s got a few settings. The harder you run the CPU and GPUs, the faster those fan blades spin.

    Or maybe you talking about something else? 🙂

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Walter Soyka

    September 3, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    [Marcus Moore] “The MacPro is the “Brain” of the system in this new paradigm. How you configure it beyond that is up to you. Ultimately it is a much more flexible solution IMHO (‘natch).”

    The Mac Pro was always the “brain” and you could attach whatever you wanted to it, inside or out.

    I’ll grant that this is significantly smaller, so that opens up some new opportunities, but I don’t know that I see it as more flexible. On the question of CPU slots, it looks to be less…

    But that doesn’t make it a bad machine. TB2 storage will be fast enough for most. Dual GPUs will more than make up for single CPU for most.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

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