[Yves De muyter]

[rahni] “There is following solution:
Just mark “change fieldorder” under the fieldoptions on the clip in the timeline and
under “render options” mark the second one. I dont know the syntax of the english version,
in german it says:
“Halbbilddominanz umkehren”
and
“Aufeinanderfolgende Frames auf Halbbilder verteilen”.
The DV-clip plays smoothly without rendering/red bar with this method.

good luck

rahni”

Rahni,

I tried this. It does not work until I force a rerender.
Also, whenever i try to add an effect, it is clear that the effect does not play correctly. Probably there is nothing wrong with the effect, it is supposed to be lower-field (PAL DV is lower-field), and the decklink is upperfield. There is something wrong with the field-order-swap the decklink is supposed to do on playout.

-Yves

[Yves De muyter]

What version of DirectX do you have installed ? The one shipped with Adobe ? Problems are often created by software you installed after Premiere…

-Yves

[Yves De muyter]

> DV PAL has to be lower field – unfortunately it is just how the spec for DV PAL was made.

I know there is this spec. I also know that for example AVID can capture DV in upper fields no matter what the spec says, just to create less headaches in mixed avid-environments for people who know what they are doing.
I can understand you don’t supply a DV PAL preset with upperfields so people don’t go the wrong way. I don’t understand that, if I tell it to do upperfields, it doesn’t do that.

-Yves

[Yves De muyter]

> And i have a third problem: when i capture from tape the output from
> decklink (composite or component, both) does flikkering! When i
> close the capturing window the preview output is okay.

While capturing, the SDI output is a real mess, the first field is down by 1/3, the second field is down by 2/3, giving a very funny interlaced picture. It’s not recorded like this on disk so it’s not a real problem.

Decklink extreme, HP wx8000, 2×130 GB SCSI, 2 GB of RAM, PPro 1.5

-Yves

[Yves De muyter]

I have been trying this release. I don’t have the impression it works like it should be:
1. Created a new project, with the BMD DV PAL preset 4:3
2. I captured some footage that aired yesterday from a BetaCam SX, SDI
3. I moved the captured media to the timeline in premiere. When I run the timeline, it seems like the fields have inverted (lower-field/upper field mixed).
4. I exported that media back to tape. The fields were inverted !!!! So it’s not that the “preview” has this fields problem, which would be understandable for a CPU-load perspective, but it is also like this when you dump to tape.

When I try to invert the fields, to make things right again, it doesn’t work until I force the media to re-render. As soon As I try some effect on it, the effect itself clearly shows inverted fields.

I tried different approaches to invert the fields:
1. right-click and in the field options, reverse field order. Doesn’t do a thing, until I apply a null-effect (an effect that does nothing) that forces the rendering of the clip
2. move the clip 1 pixel up. This makes the clip RED but it plays. In this case, it doesn’t play right, fields are still wrong. When I render this clip, fields become right.
NOT GOOD

Now, I thought it would be some “even-odd”-fields problem, So i tried to modify the BMD DV-preset to set it to Upper-fields:
– Captured media has the fields inverted again. That means a “forced” rerender of media again. So far for realtime FX…
– FX seem to work OK in this case

Lastly, I tried one of the uncompressed presets. DV footage can be added to the timeline without rendering. So good so far, but that DV-footage has fields inverted again, for both media from the 2 fore-mentioned cases. (that means the upper-fields setting captures DV in lower-fields mode!!!!!!!) To make fields correct again, the media has to be rerendered, so we’re back at the feature-set of 4.8.1 …….

-Yves

[Yves De muyter]

Euhm, the decklink pro has component YUV output, which you can configure to be a composite output on the “Y” connector.

The regular decklink is the only SD card that has no analog out.

-Yves

[Yves De muyter]

The other inputs/outputs of the DSR-25 is only composite. I’d choose DV over composite any day.
Why would you replace the canopus ? I don’t have the impression you have any SDI device, so the regular DeckLink isn’t for you. Maybe the DeckLink SP might be a solution since it has composite inputs/outputs.

-Yves

[Yves De muyter]

What codec ? What type of disk ? How many disks ? What PC? What PCI-slot ?

-Yves

[Yves De muyter]

> And finally in PPro when I print to tape and have forgotten the curson
> in a frame inside my edit (not a black one) Decklink starts to print
> to tape but uses this frame for the first frame of the entire movie and
> shifts the rest of the timeline by 1 frame (it doesn’t un-sync though).
> It’s like the framebuffer does not clear when it’s exporting (not until
> the deck goes to rec mode).

You can change the setting in Premiere to shift the video by 1 frame. (It’s named “quarterly frames”, somewhere in settings, I have to use -4 for 1 frame).

I still have a problem in that it REPLACES the first frame now, meaning it cuts off the first frame and replaces it with that framebuffer frame. I just place 1 frame black in front now…

-Yves

[Yves De muyter]

Mike,

I hope you are referring to the capture in Premiere or Vegas ?

Using the DeckLink Deck Control you can capture straight into a DV .mov. Only thing you must do is to set the quality bit using QuickTime PRO.

-Yves