[Troy Murison]

Hi Ross,

You say your comp settings are at 23.98? If so, try changing them to 23.976, otherwise transformations (ie tracking) may ‘jump around’ when rendered to 23.976 as the keyframes aren’t lining up perfectly with the footage. I have seen this before a long time ago. I can’t remember if we had to redo tracking, etc. or just change the framerate to make it right. We didn’t start the project, we were just rendering it for output and we assumed for a long time that it was a problem on our system vs. the artist’s, so it took a long time to work out. I never found out why the RAM preview didn’t match the render though.

I just re-read your post- our comp’s sources were QT’s not file sequences, so in my mind if you’ve interpreted your file sequence at x fps and rendered at x fps, things should match, but I’ve never tried.

-Troy Murison
Seattle, WA

[Troy Murison]

I posted a response to a similar question at this thread:

https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/3/886199

Here’s what it says-

Here’s what I would do:

In the timeline, highlight (select) the clip you want audio for and park the playhead at it’s first frame. Set your target track to the video layer that clip resides on, un-target any audio layer that might be targeted, press the ‘/’ (forward slash) key to mark the in-out of the clip, then press the ‘m’ key and the source clip will be loaded into the source window with the playhead parked at the same source frame your playhead is at in the timeline. Mark a in point for the clip in your source window. Target the audio track you want to edit into, deselect your video track (or not if you don’t have any effects or transformations applied) and perform a overwrite edit. Done. The only thing that sucks about this in PPro is that to select in-out for any clip on the timeline, you first have to highlight or select it. Dumb. But this should get your audio back in sync on the timeline relatively quickly.

Hope that’s what you meant and that this helps a bit.

-Troy Murison
Seattle, WA

[Troy Murison]

Alan,

That makes sense, and I’ve considered that for web surfing, AE, PS, etc. but I usually don’t surf on my editing system and I’ve learned to live without wheel functionality in other programs. But now that I know this ‘shortcut’ for PPro I’m reconsidering.

Thanks!

-t.

[Troy Murison]

Sure- use the match frame function-

Here’s what I would do:

In the timeline, highlight (select) the clip you want audio for and park the playhead at it’s first frame. Set your target track to the video layer that clip resides on, un-target any audio layer that might be targeted, press the ‘/’ (forward slash) key to mark the in-out of the clip, then press the ‘m’ key and the source clip will be loaded into the source window with the playhead parked at the same source frame your playhead is at in the timeline. Mark a in point for the clip in your source window. Target the audio track you want to edit into, deselect your video track (or not if you don’t have any effects or transformations applied) and perform a overwrite edit. Done. The only thing that sucks about this in PPro is that to select in-out for any clip on the timeline, you first have to highlight or select it. Dumb. But this should get your audio back in sync on the timeline relatively quickly.

Hope that’s what you meant and that this helps a bit.

-Troy Murison
Seattle, WA

[Troy Murison]

Wow, I guess maybe I should consider switching to a mouse! I use a tablet so was unaware of the scrolling timeline with the wheel thing. Very cool and it works really well! I know I miss some functionality in AE and PS by not using a wheel mouse too…

I still want the shortcut and ‘toggle-able’ shortcuts though! 🙂

-Troy Murison
Seattle, WA

[Troy Murison]

I want that too (AE/PS hand behavior) maybe as a ‘mappable’ shortcut, if that makes sense. I remap my keyboard so the hand tool is the spacebar (I don’t ever use it to toggle playback) but still have to remember to switch back to other tools.

I really wish Adobe would bring back the ‘mini timeline’ navigation window that Premiere 6.x had and the Avid D|S has. Very handy for longer form editing for sure. Of course it should be it’s own window just like in 6.x, so if you don’t need it or use it, close it/undock it bla, bla.

On the ‘toggle’ subject, I also wish some tools in PPro could share a shortcut key as you can in PS/AE with the pen tool for instance (like slip/slide, ripple/roll, etc. sharing a keyboard shortcut) and also be mappable or assignable that way.

BTW, you can submit feature requests to Adobe for all it’s products!

-Troy Murison
Seattle, WA.

[Troy Murison]

No other software I know of works that way for lift/extract. They all have their own way (usually a lasso of clips or a select i/o plus a specific ‘copy’ function/button), but that’s a interesting thought. Might be nice to have that as a preference you could toggle on or off, huh?

-Troy Murison
Seattle, WA

[Troy Murison]

It’s a little counter-intuitive, but DE-select (or de-target) all your tracks and mark your in-out points and then either lift or extract, just like in Avid (except for the keyboard shortcuts!). As someone else mentioned, if there are tracks you don’t want to affect, just lock those tracks. This works for ‘blank’ areas of tracks too, eliminating the need for edits in ‘fill’ as in Avid.

-Troy Murison
Seattle, WA

[Troy Murison]

Hi Mike,

Are you monitoring your sequence video on a external monitor via Firewire and sound through the soundcard of the PC/Mac? If so, that could be the issue. You cut your to audio that is ‘on’ and video that has latency introduced by the firewire device decoding the DV stream. When you export a file and view it, your cuts will be off by the amount of latency in your monitoring. To fix this, just make sure you monitor the audio from the FW device as well. If you’re not using FW, or if this is just a new, recent problem on a formerly working system, I’m afraid I don’t know.

-Troy Murison
Seattle, WA

[Troy Murison]

Maybe you have a solution by now, but if not, you might try opening your EDL in a text editor and re-saving it. Also afterward you may have to change the extension to .edl if it gets changed by the text editor. Then try that file.

That’s the first quick thing I can think to try that’s worked in the past for me on something….

Unfortunately, PPro is woefully inadequate on EDL creation/support and FCP is only a few degrees better….

Good luck!

-Troy Murison
Seattle, WA