Tony West
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[Oliver Peters] “Wait – you guys are trying to sell me on how great the browser organization is, but yet you are willing to mess it all up as a workaround?”
It’s not messing it up at all and it’s not a work around. It’s just a tit for tat for what I feel is a made up problem.
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[Oliver Peters] “One issue with browser organization and FCPX’s ability to play through the visible clips is that you always see them in the sorting order of the browser. Clip 1, then 2, then 3, and so on.”
You could just change the number. IMG_4434 becomes IMG_ 4435
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[greg janza] “If the browser viewer works for someone in FCPX to stumble onto serendipitous moments then that’s great but for me I need a stringout that I can scrub through.
“But Greg, since the clips in the browser play through in X it’s the same look as a stringout. Only you are not dropping anything into a timeline unless you want to.
When you play one clip, it gets to the end and the starts playing the next clip and so on.
If I covered up part of the screen accept for the canvas, you wouldn’t know the difference from the browser and the timeline. You would just see clips playing one after another.
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[Andrew Kimery] “since clicking on clip after clip in the Browser is tedious I started putting them into a single time.”
Yes that would be tedious, but you can play through clips in the browser in X so to put them into the timeline just to play through would be kind of an unnecessary step.
I always have my shots organized in the finder anyway so as long as I have this box checked they are tagged inside X
automatically.
Once I click on the keyword I can see all of the shots from this view. If you strung all of these shots out they wouldn’t all fit in the window of the timeline and then you have to start moving the playhead around to find different shots. I can see the shots right there, so if you were editing for me I would just say “Andrew, may I see all of my Granite City shots” You click once, then I would point to the screen and say “That sign shot right there Andrew”
I find myself more and more not even labeling broll shots because I can see what they are. I don’t really have to type “front of plant” because I can see it.
Now on the other hand, I’m cutting a multi-cam interview right now that is almost two hours long. It’s a life story deal. That one I’m doing in the timeline and using markers for where broll will go later(but I still won’t be stringing out broll). I can come back through my timeline index to find the marker that says, put MLK pic here. So in that since I look like you and Oliver.
I guess it would depend on what you were cutting and for who and what kind of instructions you were given from the client.
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[Andrew Kimery] “a 14hr long broll timeline. I used markers to organize it and played back never chocked. The Marker Window is searchable so it’s pretty easy to narrow in on what I need.”
Wow, that’s interesting. I can see how it could work.
I have never tried to load up a 14 hour timeline on my computer. It may be able to handle it but even if it did it would take longer than loading the shots in the browser after clicking on the Keyword because it would only be dealing with a certain group of shots.
do you label every every single b-roll clip with a marker?
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[Andrew Kimery] “I mainly use sequences for organization and with the pancake method (broll and interview sequences on top, editing sequences on bottom)”
How do you separate the B-roll?
Say you have b-roll from 6 different cities. Where is your b-roll kept? Do you just mix it all in together? Instead of Chicago b-roll separated from St. Louis B-roll and Missouri River Separated from Ohio River and so on?
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[Oliver Peters] “Or maybe his system evolved into a better approach ☺”
Or he maybe he forgot about the last approach : )
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Thanks for the links but I don’t need them. The whole point of a Smart Collection is for organization.
Greg said he didn’t organize. He literally wrote “it eliminates the need to organize”
So I don’t see Simon agreeing with that unless he flipped flopped.
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[Oliver Peters] “[greg janza] “It’s a very efficient system overall and it eliminates the need to organize or tag material”
I think that’s been Simon’s point all along.”
Was it? I seem to remember a post by Simone that was all about organizing through one smart collection. So now no, organizing ?
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[andy patterson] “We paid a lot but got less than the CS 4.0 to CS 5.5 upgrade. We all paid for the upgrade regardless if it was worth it or not. “
If I’m reading you right, it almost sounds like you are saying there is a point where they could price themselves out of the market by charging more than people think the program is worth.
Obviously there is a cap. If they charged 1000 a month people would say I’m not paying that.
So how far can they go before they hit a realistic cap?
