Tony West
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[Scott Witthaus] ” I did not want to lug around a package of gear so I went with my iPhone 7 “
I hear you Scott. It’s easier. You aren’t making the argument that your phone looks “better” than your C100 it’s just that it looks pretty good and you can get away with it and not carry as much stuff.
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[Robin S. Kurz] “be sure to have REALLY SHALLOW DOF!”. And if that were in fact a requirement (even from ME, not them) then, again, I’d go with the URSA MP and my primes”
I see. You go to your URSA and primes when you want to go to the next level of quality that your phone can’t handle as well.
I just want to be at my best level of quality all the time on jobs. I’ve shot cool stuff with my phone also, but I know I can do better with my primes and I want to offer my best to the client.
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[Robin S. Kurz] “Either the client trusts your judgment (and the results prove it) or they don’t.
“I don’t know about that Robin. CBS, NBC, ESPN, these Networks all have camera’s that they consider “acceptable” when they hire for a job. They wouldn’t make an exception for you either. With those clients it would be out of my hands and yours also.
Look, it’s working for you go with it. Believe me, if I could get away with shooting with my phone on most jobs I would do it in a heartbeat. I would love to save the cash.
Was the iPhone your primary camera on the job and what type of footage were you shooting with it? Who was the client?
Some of the things I like about my camera are, up to 10 picture profiles stored, SDI out, HDMI out, controls like audio adjustments on the side of the camera, XLR in, four options of peaking in the viewfinder, pre-set A and B WB on the side of the camera. The peaking really comes in handy on a bright day game.
[Robin S. Kurz] “not single person has complained that anything shot with it anyway looked “cheap” or somehow sub-par.”
I’m sure it doesn’t look cheap or sub-par, but most of the shots I see with the iPhone don’t have that shallow depth that many want.
Even in the spot that Olive posted (Looks nice btw) Everything in the shot tends to look sharp. (like a small sensor)
The shirts in the back look as sharp as him.
I have not shot with the X, how easy is it to lock on the subject and really control that tight focus? That’s the kind of thing they want. I want it also.
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The last commercial shoot I did the client said to me “You’re just setting all that stuff up for show, you know you are just going to shoot it with your iPhone.” It was a funny joke and everyone laughed. He was joking though. If I had actually broke out with my iPhone no one would have been laughing at all. They would have said, “What am I paying for, I have one of those?
Even if the iPhone lens looked as good as my Zeiss Prime 50mm (It doesn’t) there are so many other factors to shooting.
It’s fun to talk about it on a forum like this but on real client jobs it’s irrelevant because they don’t want to see you using it when they are paying significant money.
If you go in for free they might not complain, but I’m not working for free, so I’m not brining it (except to return text about my next jobs : ))
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[Andrew Kimery] “Most people want to have the lowest barrier of entry so they can reach the widest possible audience”
I have to agree with this.
As an Indie producer, there are two types of audiences for your film. 1) The people who are really hyped to see it because they have a personal connection to the topic, 2) The person that has a casual interest in the topic.
There are a ton of people in that number 2 slot and they are not gonna pay what the first group will. (You can see that playing out here)
What’s the solution? For me it is Amazon Prime. (not selling them, just is what it is in the industry right now)
When I tell people about my film they say “Where can I see your film?” In many cases that translates to “where can I see your film for free (or not pay extra than a membership they already have).
So many people have an Amazon Prime membership because they shop on there all the time. (I think more people have that than Netflix or HBO.) They can watch the film for free as part of their membership but the filmmaker still gets paid by Amazon. That’s pretty much the best deal I have seen out there.
I have my film on iTunes also and and people can get the DVD from the main site.
I have business cards with the film site on them because “The Safe Side of the Fence” is a long title for folks to remember.
You want to make it as easy as possible for your audience to find it and you don’t want to leave the money from the 2 group on the table.Hopefully he will get a lot of folks right off the bat and it works for him.
Just wanted to share what I have learned as I traveled this path.
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I actually just met Alan Bell last week when I was in LA. He is a friend of my brother. Super nice guy with a great deal of talent. I really enjoyed meeting him and talking film and editing. I was mainly just listening to him. It was a group of film industry guys all at the top of their game and it was cool hearing about the projects they were on and how they go about their work.
Nobody enjoys working with X more than me, but I can see how someone in his position (at the top of the game) wouldn’t have much interest and making any major moves from what got him to the top. There is so much money on the line at that level and he’s already where he needs to be.
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[Simon Ubsdell] “I still don’t know what Apple are trying to do and I don’t pretend to.
“I think most people on the forum appreciate the work you and Oliver have done on this, including myself.
I kind of looked at your thread in two parts, 1) your explanation of how conventional colors wheels work as oppose to the way apple’s did, and 2) you insisted that apple had done it this way on purpose.
“Again I want to stress that Apple have not “done anything wrong” here and it’s not a bug. It’s a choice they have legitimately made.”
I was curious about that second part from the beginning and I’m still a little curious about it. How did you know that was “a choice they have legitimately made.”? Did apple tell you that?
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[Oliver Peters] “Apple’s FCPX “in action” user story pages seem to be gone.”
When you go to “Resources” and then “Communities” there are a ton of interesting links.
I like how they have organized everything on the page now. the plugin page is awesome.
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[Robin S. Kurz] “it seems no one can argue 100% that it’s in fact a bug or not, so ultimately pretty moot conversation, no?”
Yeah,
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[Simon Ubsdell] “Disclaimer: Although I am very proud to have collaborated on Hawaiki Color and very grateful to the discriminating users who have sought it out over the years, I no longer have any commercial involvement with the product.”
Fair and above board.
My point remains, better for X users overall, that it’s a bug that’s fixed in an update. We will know soon enough.
It’s good information though, and it was a good video.
