[Tony West]

I have not used Lightroom either Douglas. I have been swamped the last couple of days and have not been able to get back to the program Beta.

I hope at least in the next couple of days to get back to it.

[Tony West]

[Oliver Peters] “I typically never get logos in an edit-ready format, so Photoshop is indispensable for me”

No doubt, I will prep logos in Photoshop also. I think most of us do that. That’s different from “designing
Logos.”

I might be using this new app for that though in the future, thanks to your post Oliver : )

[Tony West]

Will do Douglas.

I’m working with the Beta right now. So far it looks really cool. I like how you can hover over an area and it shows you what it’s going to look like before you do it.

It also has a undo brush so you can hover over an area that you worked on earlier and decide if you want to change just that one fix you made. Really like that!

I’m just getting started with it but liking what I’m seeing.

[Tony West]

[Douglas K. Dempsey] “You don’t just use Photoshop for logo design.”

of course. I wasn’t saying that because I don’t use it for logos myself, that I don’t use it for other things.

[Douglas K. Dempsey] “In documentary we use Photoshop or sometimes it’s low-rent cousin Pixelmator for the layered still photo effect — sometimes referred to as “The Kid Stays in the Picture” effect, because that docu bio of Producer Robert Evans used the effect extensively.”

Yes, I’m doing the same exact thing in the doc that I’m cutting now.

I have all these historic pics that it helps to use this technique with. That’s really the main reason I’m looking at this new app. I want to see if I can do this more effectively with it than Photoshop.

I love that film BTW

[Tony West]

[Oliver Peters] “Completely different tools to address different functions.”

I guess they wouldn’t be in my case. I only use Photoshop to fix photos. That’s what I would have used Aperture for, but a photographer friend of mine told me I didn’t really need Aperture if I already had Photoshop.

Designing Logos is moot to my work. The clients provide their logos. I guess that somebody else made in Photoshop. I have no interest in that end.

[Tony West]

[Oliver Peters] “This is a competitor to Photoshop and not to either Aperture “

I always thought Aperture and Photoshop were competitors.

[Tony West]

ahhh, that looks pretty awesome.

Could this have factored into Apple’s decision to step away from Aperture?

[Tony West]

I like that it’s there as an option Richard but I really don’t find myself using it.

I use the trim tool much more often between clips and I use the 2 displays then.

[Tony West]

I totally understand why someone used to using that technique in MC would not like doing it in X

It really becomes a moot point for me because I no longer have the patience for J K and L

The skimmer is so much faster at getting around the timeline. When I review an edit I need to get to the other side of the edit for play back. The skimmer gets me there in a blink of the eye. In the dynamic trim mode getting to the play through position is slower than I can get there with the skimmer.

In dynamic trimming you are changing the incoming clip and the out going clip at the same time. it’s rare that I don’t like the position of both clips. I am usually set with where the out going clip is and it’s just a matter of where the incoming clip is going to hit.

I would rather trim those clips one at a time and be in position for review faster with the skimmer than set up that DT mode and review J K an L

[Tony West]

[Dennis Radeke] “a healthy competitive market is good for users!”

I couldn’t agree more Dennis. I appreciate all the work you guys are doing at Adobe